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post #11 of 31 (permalink) Old 05-18-2015, 07:57 PM
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...and just to add to the confusion there is "Trailer Sway Control (TSC)" controlled by sensors that recognize an excessively swaying trailer and will take appropriate actions to attempt to stop the sway.
Does this come only with the factory trailer package or is it standard on all Cherokees, who knows ?
Mine did not come with factory tow package but it does have Trailer Sway Control on the build sheet, so it must be standard on Trailhawks at least.
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The mystery continues...could be the final drive ratio, but with 9 speeds who cares.
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My 2015 Jeep Cherokee Limited V6, no tow package, came standard with Trailer Sway Damping.

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I just talked to my service manager and asked him about the tow package and what it actually changed. He said the tow package changed the capacity of the radiator, added a cooling fan, changed the final axle ratio, and heavier springs. What I would like to know if someone has a 2015 Lattitude v-6 without the tow package and has the build sheet to compare my springs (I have the tow package)


SPRING PART NUMBERS.


Left rear--ZCVP----RIGHT REAR--ZRVP


LEFT FRONT- ZFCP RIGHT FRONT-ZUBP


I doubt if the spring numbers will be the same with a tow package on a Limited or especially the TH so the numbers above are again from my 2015 latitude with the tow package. Oh, most of you know the final drive with the tow package is 3.517 (mine is that ).

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.... added a cooling fan, ....
I have 2 cooling fans in my V6 Limited with Tow Group, as far as I can tell. Don't they all, whether tow group or not?

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I have 2 cooling fans in my V6 Limited with Tow Group, as far as I can tell. Don't they all, whether tow group or not?

Not from what my service manager said--said that was with the tow group. He lifted my hood to see if I had two fans. He did say you could order the heavy duty engine cooling without the tow group, but that would be silly to me as you might as well get the tow group even if your not going to use it for the added value and all that you get with the tow group.
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This topic keeps coming up as dealers say they can add a tow group after it is delivered. I call BS they can add tow equipment but never the original tow group. What you can and can't tow is based on the weakest link. As far as a tow rating goes the rating of the hitch and ball is the first stops. The max is based on the lowest of the two, then what your GVW, you must not be exceeded it with tongue and vehicle and cargo. Next what you pull has to be under the GVW. Ok last the stuff you add to the trans and engine and brakes to handle the extra work. so if you don't have a transmission cooler you will need to watch your temperatures same with the engine you can add coolers etc to help in these areas. All are after market parts or add on OME. So what you can tow versus how much you should tow or even what the manufacturer recommends will vary. With a new vehicle like the jeep stay with the lowest number in this case with a tow groupe and V-6 4,500 lbs. everything else 2,000 lbs. Can you tow more? yes but wear and tear and safety of you and your vehicle will be up to you. Remember the limits is up to you if you want to tow more just don't exceed the lowest rated part.

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Can you tow more? yes but wear and tear and safety of you and your vehicle will be up to you. Remember the limits is up to you if you want to tow more just don't exceed the lowest rated part.
There are multiple related questions that don't all have the same answer:
- "can you tow?"
- "can you tow safely?"
- "can you tow legally?"
- "Who goes to jail if you exceed the published specs?"
- "Who comes up with the money when insurance refuses to pay for exceeding specs?"
- "Who deals with the guilt for possible injury or loss of life for exceeding specs?"

Engineers (balanced by marketing/sales and lawyers) come up with a "safe" rating that likely has a notable chunk of room that is still technically safe. The lawyers/insurance that get involved after an accident are going to go by what the book says, though.

Consider hanging from a 500' high bridge from a rope with a 200 pound working load. You weigh 250 pounds. The rope is probably actually "safe" to 400 or 500 pounds. Are you going to trust the 200 pound rope to stop you from splattering on the ground/rocks below?

I personally de-rate the published specs even further. For towing, I max at about 75-80% of the listed rate. Stupidity happens. Things break. Perfect-storm of small things happen. I like having the extra security. If I want to tow/carry at the rated capacity of a vehicle, I use "the next size bigger" vehicle to give me the reserve capacity.

Personal anecdote: I had a 6,000lb travel trailer and a Ram 1500. Once I added people camping gear, 500lbs of dogs, about 400lbs of "portable" kennel, etc. I was pushing close to the limit on the 1500. I traded in for 2500 to regain the reserve capacity. While returning home, somebody cut in front of me and slammed on their brakes. I needed to make an emergency stop. Braking took more effort than expected, but I did stop. Later inspection revealed that the wire for the electric brakes had been pinches/broken. I stopped ~13,000lbs of truck + trailer + stuff with vehicle brakes only.

It's a personal decision for everybody, and I'm probably "overly cautious". At the same time, I get to see "impossible" things happen regularly, and I've also never been involved in a towing accident...
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It depends on if you have the Factory Installed Tow group. Just having a hitch does not change your towing capacity. See chart below:

http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/attachme...1&d=1432246894


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Question: Can my 2015 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L V6 tow up to 4500lbs now (instead of 2000 lbs) since I have had the tow hitch installed?
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We purchased a 2014 Cherokee Latitude with the 3.2 L V6 this past May and are first time Jeep owners. We have (like many others in the towing forum) been wondering about the difference between the factory tow package vs. aftermarket components. We used to pull our pop up (roughly 2500-2600 lbs loaded) with a '99 5.2L Durango. After seeing the preliminary Jeep H.P. specs and the 4500 lb. towing capacity, we decided to add a class III receiver and the brake controller from the Durango. We ended up pulling the camper up to Muskegon State Park in Sport Mode maybe 75% of the time to avoid excess shifting on hills. Surprisingly enough, it pulled better than the Durango with less downshifting as well. We ended up averaging 20.8 MPG @ 62-65 MPH over a 115 mile distance.

I decided to look under the hood and discovered we have what looks to be a factory transmission cooler already. Other than the different final drive ratio which really doesn't appear to be an issue except that we got great mileage, I'm guessing the only other tow package options we might not have is possibly a beefier alternator (the Jeep did come with the cold weather package, so maybe we have a more powerful alternator IDK) and a stiffer rear suspension, but in all fairness the leaf springs on the old Dodge are shot).

All this to say, I suspect Jeeps lawyers are protecting themselves with the 2000 vs. 4500lb. capacity because they can't control what people do with aftermarket components and as such cannot give their blessings via warrnaty unless it has been setup by Chrysler/Jeep. If you use a reputable installer and quality components, I don't see that there should be an issue. Keep in mind, I'm only over the 2000 lb limit by 500-600 lbs - hardly a make or break difference.

I'm certainly open to more informed expert opinions on the matter and whether or not you think I'm going to ruin my Cherokee. We only camp 2-3 times a year any more and the trips are under 200 miles.

Like I said, I'm new to the Jeep world, but not towing.
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