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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-11-2016, 01:31 PM Thread Starter
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Door sills collect lots of dirt

I live in the proverbial middle of nowhere, with graded dirt roads for at least 6 miles in every direction. When dry, these become very dusty. When it rains they get muddy and after only a short drive the Jeep is no longer Bright Black but Countryside Flat Beige up to the belt line. I can live with that.

However, just like the two ZJs and the WK I had before, the KL manages to suck up lots of dirt onto the door sills. In rainy weather the sills look like narrow lakes of mud when you open the door. I'm 6'3" with long legs, so I can slide in and out without ruining my pants, but my regular passenger is 5' nothing and she has severe challenges getting into or out of the vehicle and remain presentable for work.

Has anyone here found some way to eliminate, or at least alleviate, this problem?

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In theory you could put a line of soft foam stripping/insulation (like for sealing garage door/frame interface) along the very edges of the door to seal the gaps between door and frame - basically add a "pre-seal" to keep dust out from the main seals... not sure how it would work with moisture though. I guess I've just never noticed an 'lakes of mud' on my car. Getting dirty/dusty in there, sure, but nothing I haven't seen in most other cars and esp in SUVs.

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I don't have that problem since I don't do any off road driving. But I thought my TH would go through 20" of water so shouldn't that be water proof at the bottom at least? May be a dumb question,
but curious about the dirt getting in there so much. Thanks for informing me on this subject.

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The idea of adding some sort of seal along the bottom edge of the doors has occurred to me, but I don't know if it's feasible in practice.

You don't have to go off-road around here to experience the problem, since there are lots of graded dirt roads (even public roads). I drive at least 20 miles on dirt every day.

The forecast doesn't mention rain any time soon, but I'll snap a picture and post it here the next time this happens.

The dirt doesn't penetrate into the passenger compartment, so fording 20" of water might still be okay.

As I said, I've had the exact same issue with the three Grand Cherokees I've owned. I guess I was nursing some hope that Jeep would have caught on by now.

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Wish Jeep would copy the setup on my '17 Subaru Outback. Each door has a firm rubber gasket that fits flush against the bottom of the door, keeping dust/dirt/mud out of the door sill. It works quite well as I've been down many dirt roads and construction areas with the Outback.
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I don't have that problem since I don't do any off road driving. But I thought my TH would go through 20" of water so shouldn't that be water proof at the bottom at least? May be a dumb question,
but curious about the dirt getting in there so much. Thanks for informing me on this subject.
Someone said that the door seals are not completely waterproof... from what I remember, they are water resistant (common splash/rain), but if you submerge that area you will have water ingress.

You could look at getting the RRO step rails for your passenger. Then they would have something to step on when getting in and out of the KL. Also, it removes the stock plastic rocker panels where the water/mud sits!

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Thanks everyone for your valuable input!

The Subaru gaskets @mowcowbell mentioned sound like just the thing. I've been wondering whether it would work with the type of P-profile rubber sealing strips that you use for insulating windows on your house. Maybe worth a try?

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You could look at getting the RRO step rails for your passenger. Then they would have something to step on when getting in and out of the KL. Also, it removes the stock plastic rocker panels where the water/mud sits!
I'm not too crazy about the step rails. The regular rock sliders are fine (although we don't get much opportunity for rock crawling around here), but the steps look more like they belong on a suburbian mommy mobile.

Besides, she's quite used to it after riding with me in ZJs and a WK for the last 8 years.

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but the steps look more like they belong on a suburbian mommy mobile.

Opinions are like... well, opinions. This happens to be one I've never seen/heard ref the RRO step rails.

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Thanks everyone for your valuable input!

The Subaru gaskets @mowcowbell mentioned sound like just the thing. I've been wondering whether it would work with the type of P-profile rubber sealing strips that you use for insulating windows on your house. Maybe worth a try?



I'm not too crazy about the step rails. The regular rock sliders are fine (although we don't get much opportunity for rock crawling around here), but the steps look more like they belong on a suburbian mommy mobile.

Besides, she's quite used to it after riding with me in ZJs and a WK for the last 8 years.
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Opinions are like... well, opinions. This happens to be one I've never seen/heard ref the RRO step rails.
I would agree about the mommy mobile thing if they were big chrome cheap bull bar style steps, however they look very different than those. Solid black, rugged, matching the lines of the vehicle? Never seen that on a mommy mobile.

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Opinions are like... well, opinions. This happens to be one I've never seen/heard ref the RRO step rails.
I certainly didn't intend to offend anyone and if I did so, I apologize.

I haven't seen the RRO step rails in real life. In fact, I haven't even seen another KL on the roads around here, much less one with mods. So my opinion is based mostly on the blingy sidesteps on Grand Cherokees that make me cringe. Those are badly detrimental to ground clearance, but of course the owners of those Grands would never consider off-roading (which is fine).

I have barely been off the road myself for years. I can't afford to risk major damage to my daily driver (which would also affect my two passengers). Besides, off-roading is generally illegal in Sweden and the terrain here is forest-covered hills where you can't even go off-road with a dirt bike (or deforestation areas where a main battle tank would struggle).

I drive a Jeep because for the last 16 years they've proven to be very reliable and capable to get me where I need to go over bad roads, snow and ice.

Even if I rarely make use of it I still enjoy that feeling of go-anywhere capability. Call me a poser, if you like, but mods that affect that adversely aren't interesting to me. The kind of sidesteps I have seen belong firmly in that category, but I assume the RRO step rails are something else.
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