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post #21 of 32 (permalink) Old 05-30-2017, 08:49 AM
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To the OP... The real question is if YOU are willing to take the risk and liability. I don't know how the laws work everywhere, but around me, the driver is the one responsible for their load and vehicle,... all of it. This also means you are responsible for understanding the weights and limits of your vehicle and adhering to them. I ruffled some feathers in another thread heading down a similar road, but say you are in an accident. Towing beyond the vehicle's rating would make you civilly liable, and no one will care what the dealer said.

This is a hot topic here in Ohio, because local RV dealers are pretty notorious for selling RVs that people don't have enough vehicle to pull. In some cases, the dealer's themselves have been pulled onto the carpet but always gotten away from any responsibility due to it ultimately falling on the driver.

I get that the dealer is saying they can make the rating the 4500# but unless they are going to write you up something official, that negates what is in the manual and on the door sticker, I would be concerned. Even this isn't a for sure "get-out-of-jail". IMO, this is all a civic concern and not a legal one, but it's still a concern.

Now, for the ability.... In spite of the fact I have another thread on my economic concerns while towing, I can tell you that our KL pulled our trailer (~1600 pounds) like it wasn't even back there at low speeds. In all honesty, it really impressed me.

My only concern (that has been addressed) is how deep you need to go into the water. Around here, the concrete gets REALLY slick bast the waterline. For this reason, I personally would consider leaving the system in "auto" as this puts the power bias more towards the front where you have traction.

As for the weight... If you can handle it to/from the ramp, you will handle it at the ramp. Backing down the ramp is more about the brakes and as soon as the boat touches water the trailer gets lighter. Same for pulling out of the water, the trailer isn't back to full weight until the boat is all the way back on the trailer and by this time traction should be plentiful.
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I'd like to point out, Canadian spec KLs are considered a North American model and are not shipped to Australia. The steering wheel would be on the wrong side of the vehicle...

Also, european spec vehicles have a different hitch setup than we have in the North American market. So that's not the case. North American spec vehicles have the exact same owners manual but some features may be missing due to regulations.


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I have been assured by the dealer that since it's a six cylinder, they can put on a hitch and it's rated to 4500 lbs. Will do that. Miss my truck but like this vehicle.

Now why is the dealer saying 4500 lbs while some here are sure it's 2000 lbs. maybe because it's a 2016?
They told me this as well. The stealerships either need to A) Be held accountable or B) Jeep needs to better train their sales staff.

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I ALWAYS take what anyone at a dealership says with a grain of salt, from years of experience.

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1) Received a Chevy Vega as part of a dowry in the mid-70's. At 27,000 miles it started burning oil excessively. The service manager said: "What do you expect? You got 27,000 miles out of the engine."

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To the OP... The real question is if YOU are willing to take the risk and liability.
Actually, the real question right now is whether an Oz Jeep with dealer-installed OEM hitch meets the requirements for the 4,500lb capacity. The dealer could be right. What does the towing section of your owner manual say, @Fishhaggis?

There is still the bigger issue of North-America models being very ambiguous in phrasing with mixed messaging from the dealers on the towing capability.

EDIT: Gah! I'm stuck on "Northwest" and keep thinking "NSW: New South Wales" (Australia). Brain needs to go in for a tune-up. North American vehicles don't get 4,500lbs unless it is a factory (not dealer) install, per Jeep. There is REALLY bad messaging coming from the dealers.

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EDIT: Gah! I'm stuck on "Northwest" and keep thinking "NSW: New South Wales" (Australia). Brain needs to go in for a tune-up. North American vehicles don't get 4,500lbs unless it is a factory (not dealer) install, per Jeep. There is REALLY bad messaging coming from the dealers.
Hahaha. Think Alaska, their neighbor

Guessing here that boat ramps up there are very... rough, so water depth and soft footing while in the water may be big issues for the OP as well, enough to go with a longer/higher pick-up truck perhaps. I don't know... kinda hard to judge ramps we can't see.

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One of the "launches " I use , No problems pulling a 3500 pound boat up here , Usually a lot wetter and slippery than this .




Heres one I use thats 5 mins from my house , steeper than it looks , much like the first pic .
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You definitely don't need a big ass truck for launching boats at or below the recommended tow limit .
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FCA Canada customer care was very timely, friendly and helpful. They confirmed my vehicle can only tow 2000 lbs. They suggested I talk to the dealer. I will, and see if they make this right somehow. 6k on the odometer. Stay tuned.
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I launched my 20' pontoon boat with the Cherokee last week. I couldn't get it into the water as far as I would have liked, but it was enough to push the boat by hand and slide it off the trailer. I would imaging I'll need to winch it up at the end of the season.
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I have had good experiences with the dealer and will look to them to make it right.

Kamloops Kevin, nice set up by the way.
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