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post #211 of 300 (permalink) Old 01-17-2017, 07:21 PM
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I wouldn't trust the mag-mount for a permanent rooftop installation. I'm sure my garage door would knock it loose, but it worked very well as an instant fix for my needs this week. If I decide to go with a permanent installation, I'll probably go with a hood-lip mounted Firestik. I'm not expecting much over 5 mile range in this day and age, but back in the mid-60s, 25-30 miles to a good base station wasn't unusual from my old Johnson II or Courier 23 and my co-phased Hustlers on my '53 Ford Vicky. No way to fit one of those in a modern vehicle though...lol! Back then I was in college and working in a CB shop doing installs. Now it's hard enough to find room for even the control head for my DR-638T and I'm not sure the XYL wants me robbing her of any of her passenger space. Oh...and FWIW, I was a Navy CTR from 68-72, and have an R-390A like I used back in the day as a centerpiece in my ham shack now.
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I wouldn't trust the mag-mount for a permanent rooftop installation. I'm sure my garage door would knock it loose, but it worked very well as an instant fix for my needs this week. If I decide to go with a permanent installation, I'll probably go with a hood-lip mounted Firestik. I'm not expecting much over 5 mile range in this day and age, but back in the mid-60s, 25-30 miles to a good base station wasn't unusual from my old Johnson II or Courier 23 and my co-phased Hustlers on my '53 Ford Vicky. No way to fit one of those in a modern vehicle though...lol! Back then I was in college and working in a CB shop doing installs. Now it's hard enough to find room for even the control head for my DR-638T and I'm not sure the XYL wants me robbing her of any of her passenger space. Oh...and FWIW, I was a Navy CTR from 68-72, and have an R-390A like I used back in the day as a centerpiece in my ham shack now.


I don't recommend the hood Lip. Our fenders I think are aluminum, the hood is for sure. In addition people who've ran CB through the engine bay or firewall have reported electrical interference. But I also don't recommend a tailgate mounted one, but a few people have made that work. I recently suggested to someone that they make a plate that would mount under the factory roof rails then the roof rails bolt right back in place. This way it's grounded properly and it's on the roof. Install a spring and a quick disconnect and you can go anywhere.


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Thanks for the info and suggestions. Question for those who have mounted the radio on the top of the dash: Did you route and conceal the power leads and coax down through the dash, and if so, how? For my temporary install, I've been using a cig-lighter plug for the power and just running the coax up along side, but it's messy looking and I'd prefer a neater approach for a permanent install. I upgraded the radio to a Stryker SR447HPC2, because it's a bit smaller and will fit better atop the lid for the dash storage compartment. For an antenna, I'm planning on using a Diamond K400 lip-mount with a 3' Firestik for everyday use and ease of garaging, with the ability to be quickly replaced with a Stryker A-10 or a Wilson 2000 for long highway trips.
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Thanks for the info and suggestions. Question for those who have mounted the radio on the top of the dash: Did you route and conceal the power leads and coax down through the dash, and if so, how? For my temporary install, I've been using a cig-lighter plug for the power and just running the coax up along side, but it's messy looking and I'd prefer a neater approach for a permanent install. I upgraded the radio to a Stryker SR447HPC2, because it's a bit smaller and will fit better atop the lid for the dash storage compartment. For an antenna, I'm planning on using a Diamond K400 lip-mount with a 3' Firestik for everyday use and ease of garaging, with the ability to be quickly replaced with a Stryker A-10 or a Wilson 2000 for long highway trips.
Hi CW, I myself have a Cobra 29 LTD Classic mounted to the dash pocket. Since I don't have the 9 speaker stereo my cables run through the center speaker grill. In my opinion unless you are running a powerful linear amp you don't need anything more than a firestic. While in Idaho I was managing 30 miles or so, but I've had my radio tuned for a little more power also. Before I had it tuned I was still getting 8-10 miles. I personally have mine mounted to a quick disconnect.

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Thanks, Len. Did you just drill a hole in the speaker grill then, and fish the cables up through that? I honestly don't know how many speakers are in this Cherokee...guess I'll have to dig out the owners manual and see what I have. It's the touch-screen with Sirius/XM, originally without NAV, but I added that a few months back when MOPAR was running a special on it.
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Thanks, Len. Did you just drill a hole in the speaker grill then, and fish the cables up through that? I honestly don't know how many speakers are in this Cherokee...guess I'll have to dig out the owners manual and see what I have. It's the touch-screen with Sirius/XM, originally without NAV, but I added that a few months back when MOPAR was running a special on it.


You know if you have the nine speaker by looking in the cargo area. You either have one cargo locker on the left or you have two, one on he left and one on the right.

Yes, went right through the speaker grill.


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Can anyone share some photos of their ground set up? I'm roof basket mounted and have tried grounding to the steel basket itself and the body but it doesn't seem to be working.

My SWR is off the chart 3+ when grounded to the sheet metal around the rear hatch.

When ground d to the basket I get SWR of 1.5 but I've been unable to raise/hear anyone on the radio. I love near a major highway and a WalMart Distribution Center, so there's no shortage of truckers.

Running a Uniden 520XL, 18ft of coax and a 2' Firestik.






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Try a 3' firestic 2' ones are very difficult to tune properly.

Also, try rerouting the coax. Also, try a different mount or a smaller spring. Your antenna setup is incorrect.

I'd have a much stronger bracket to the basket, a Wilson 305-610 mount. That spring is a bit much for a 2' but will be fine for a 3'.

Try running a grounding strap vs a wire. You may get better performance.




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Try a 3' firestic 2' ones are very difficult to tune properly.

Also, try rerouting the coax. Also, try a different mount or a smaller spring. Your antenna setup is incorrect.

I'd have a much stronger bracket to the basket, a Wilson 305-610 mount. That spring is a bit much for a 2' but will be fine for a 3'.

Try running a grounding strap vs a wire. You may get better performance.


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Ordered a 3' Firefly, medium spring and a beefier mount based on this advice. I have a grounding strap but it's pretty short, leading to my wire solution. The strap will def give better performance.

Is yours grounded directly to the roof?

Additionally, you said the above pictured set up is incorrect. Can you please elaborate? Or do you mean the combination of components?


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I think it was Len that mentioned making a bracket to mount on the liftgate gas shock mounting point, but that made me go look and I thought it looked like a viable option to build a mount for it. Now I like the idea of the antenna on the nose but with no real option to make this work (until I can get my winch mount anyways) since there is no kind of usable ground up there I thought I would give it a try. So I went and picked up a small aluminum sheet to see what I could do. I don't think it looks too bad but will all the angles and cuts, I think I would prefer a fab shop to take it to. I think it is viable though. Thoughts?
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