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post #11 of 59 (permalink) Old 09-21-2016, 11:06 PM
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2017 Trailhawk: http://www.jeep.com/hostd/windowstic...PJMBS2HW505127

2017 Trailhawk L Plus: http://www.jeep.com/hostd/windowstic...PJMBS9HW524709


Neither mention the electronic parking brake, etc from what I can see
Window stickers can be wrong, but I don't think that is the case here. Some Scat Pack Chargers had some content listed from the SRT model in error, and it had everyone up in arms on another forum I frequent.

I just looked at an L Plus model in stock at Glendale CDJ in St. Louis, and the electric parking brake switch is plain as day in a photo.

One of the things "not available" in the model comparison is the Select Terrain. That knob looks the same in the photos.
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Window stickers can be wrong, but I don't think that is the case here. Some Scat Pack Chargers had some content listed from the SRT model in error, and it had everyone up in arms on another forum I frequent.

I just looked at an L Plus model in stock at Glendale CDJ in St. Louis, and the electric parking brake switch is plain as day in a photo.

One of the things "not available" in the model comparison is the Select Terrain. That knob looks the same in the photos.
True enough!

Best way is to go look at the vehicles, or get the order guide with the detailed breakdown of features.
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I hope I can get a straight answer tomorrow. On this and my order status. When I called my dealer manager, he first said, "I'll have your VON tomorrow," then after I told him my concern from today's revelations, he said "Guess it's good I didn't get that one in." Last time I ordered a car, it took 5 business days for the VON or VIN to appear. Did he order it or not? Then he told me "sold order protection" on rebates doesn't exist anymore. There's a $2250 rebate in place now that expires Oct-3rd. He is telling me that went away when FCA took over, but he's just now learning that. Two other dealers told me two weeks ago "sold order protection" is real. Am I guaranteed the rebate active at time of order or not? I am so tired of getting the run around.
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https://www.jeep.com/en/download-bro..._redirect=true

Page 16 of the 2017 brochure states Active Drive Lock is standard on all Trailhawk models. That contradicts the "compare models" page online. ADL is "not available" according to that.
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FYI, I've noticed a few threads where people are mentioning a new towing capacity of 5500 for the 17's. It's 5500 GVRW (for the V6), same as all previous models and the towing capacity remains at 4500 with tow package and 2000 without.
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FYI, I've noticed a few threads where people are mentioning a new towing capacity of 5500 for the 17's. It's 5500 GVRW (for the V6), same as all previous models and the towing capacity remains at 4500 with tow package and 2000 without.
Precisely... Though I think the other one I saw was referring to the GC...

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All the sites are some what messed up now. My Mopar connect site isn't showing my MaxCare Unlimited but, the site where you check your warranty information by VIN shows it. So I'd have to say that all the original standard equipment on the TH will be on the L Plus, otherwise it was pointless to make a separate model TH that you have to add stuff just to go Off Road in basic terrain.

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I'm glad then that I got mine when I did. I didn't want the Technology Package (too much stuff to go wrong) but I am happy with it and still learning all of its secrets.
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Wait did they really change the final drive ratio in V6 to 4.083??? Thought that was for 4 cyl.

Also why did fuel econ go down for 2017 on Trailhawk (18/24/21)? Also showing Midgrade gas on FuelEcon.gov
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If they were able to bump the towing I seriously doubt they would bump the tranny cooler. That would make absolutely no sense. Is the wheelbase the same, and physical dimensions. Perhaps mall crawler and more appealing to those sold for being towed behind the big caravan/mororhomes? Either way, I would pass until further clarification.

FCA has made some boneheaded moves in prior years. When active in the Grand Cherokee forum, there were many that just hated the changes from 2014 into the 2015 models above Limited. They messed up the start button removal which made it almost impossible to start if your fob battery died. Then the transmission mess, which still hasn't been figured out. They lost tons of customers who traded in Jeeps to get that 2015 WK2 outlander and summit among others. Sometimes you have to wonder if they just are watering the Jeep brand down, way too much.

Jeep is one of their best sellers so they should really field test a bunch of these awful decisions.


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