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Windshield washers freezing up?

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windchill doesn't make water freeze any more than the actual air temperature.

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My apologies, I personally still drive in sub zero temps a few times a year.

Edit: which is why I'm gonna install heated washers.


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@Mark_ I run 0 degree mix all year. I go through a gallon every two weeks or so. I have a bit of OCD in regards to glass needing to be spotless. My glasses too.


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@Mark_ I run 0 degree mix all year. I go through a gallon every two weeks or so. I have a bit of OCD in regards to glass needing to be spotless. My glasses too.


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Odd I just had this happen last Friday. First winter with my Jeep, first real cold morning...0F...and my windshield wiper fluid would not squirt. I chalk it up to dealer using watered down fluid to save a buck. Temps rebounded to 15 in the afternoon and they worked fine.
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Rain-X sells a concentrated "additive" which is supposed to be a de-icer and it claims to lower the freezing point of what you have in the reservoir by an additional 20 degrees. It comes in a quart sized bottle.


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Anybody else had this? Maybe dealer is putting straight water in mine. I've never had to fill them. But several times recently with temp in the 20F and below range they have been frozen and won't work. Once temp is up around 32 they are ok again.
Mine will spray just fine but will partially start freezing on the windshield in the single digits and below as we have had over the weekend. I have had this happen even in the "old" days.
As soon as the vehicle warms up and the defrosters are blowing warm, and problem is over. Till that happens I have to keep using the solution to clear the frost off till it starts freezing up again.

I always use -20 to -30F washer solution year round.
Its just the rule I have learned: If real cold, Do not squirt till the defrosters are going or pay the price.
Also use that -20 to -30F solution year round. Its easy to forget to change it out when the time comes or you take a trip to a colder area.
In fact our home improvement store in late summer had windshield fluid at a good price BUT I notice it was not anti-freeze type. That was a surprise as up here in the Mid and Northern part of the country I have only seen the -20 to -30 F stuff.

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You can make your own heated washers by using the same
type of hose that goes to the spray nozzles and wrapping a long
piece around the "hot" hose at the radiator.
Make sure to secure it with heat proof aluminum tape then
using splice connectors add it into the washer spray path.
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windchill is irrelevent to non people or animals. fluid freeze goes by actual temps.
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windchill is irrelevent to non people or animals. fluid freeze goes by actual temps.
True.
But...

Inside car temp 75F ---- outside temp 0F (example).

1)Parked car : blowing hot air on inside of windshield elevates windshield temp enough to melt anything on the outside of the glass. This is, IIRC, named conduction.

2) Same car, same inside and outside temps, same blowing hot air on windshield, but car moving at 60mph. Do you think stuff will melt on the outside as quickly/easily as when the car was parked ? Nope... and this, IIRC, is convection. Throw a fast moving cold fluid (in this case air) on a surface and it will cool down significantly faster than with zero air movement.

So this isn't "wind chill factor" as we all know and love, but it's physics at work. When the cool washer fluid hits a warm (warm enough) windshield, no problems. Get that car moving through cold air and the game changes.

I remember when I first hit a hale storm in 90F weather driving on the highway in a Ford Econoline. The metal roof made cracking sounds (not the same sound as the ice balls hitting) and also the outside of the windshield fogged up instantly. There was so much cold fluid hitting the van at once the temp differential was very high, the contracting metal made noises and dew point on the outside of the glass. Fascinating...

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Yup, mine froze up last week when it was around 8 degrees outside.

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