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I personally installed the Phillips Headlight bulbs. They aren't brighter but the change of color makes a big difference.


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I personally installed the Phillips Headlight bulbs. They aren't brighter but the change of color makes a big difference.
You mean Philips *CrystalVision* bulbs, which are 4000K color instead of the stock 9012 HIR2 Philips which are 3000K. Same power rating for both. Halogen of course.
@flaco : fwiw, we've been told the shadow problem has been corrected with a recent batch of those xenon bulbs. But yeah I know and I realize the beam pattern doesn't suit xenon bulbs in an ideal way. Best I can say for myself is this : I'm still looking for OEM HID lamps (checking wreckers regularly online), and I will aim mine (with the kit) as low as I can go, to limit bumpy road (or heavy loaded) blinding... I've gotten to the point where I'm afraid to drive on dark 2 lane roads with the halogens... and other options are just too expensive right now. So be it...
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I do not like the newer tractor trailers with reallly bright LEDs, so I can relate. I really like the HID kit from AutoLED corp out of Ontario, CND. They seem to have less shadows and aren't too bright.

I'm trying to be judicious with my driving lights these days as those Philips LEDs are as bright as a second pair of low beams.

Still I love it being almost equal to the Bi-level Xenons that were on my 2011 WK2. Those were great headlamps and perfectly legal.

I think as we age we try to be more aware of oncoming drivers.

Though when as a young kid we were taught if the oncoming headlights were too bright too look more to the lower right as you passed by them. That still is applicable today.


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Problem with the light bar is you can't use it on the highway, off road only.
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Well everyone uses them here in Newfoundland. Hooked into high beam. What's the difference. They are not on in low beam.

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Well everyone uses them here in Newfoundland. Hooked into high beam. What's the difference. They are not on in low beam.
Maybe NL does it different, but msot everywhere driving lights are illegal. Driving lights are extra long range lights, whether they are relayed to work with high beams or not.

Now to be perfectly honest... I ran with 100W halogen driving lights (relayed to high beams) on a few cars in the '80s and '90s when I drove at night a lot, mostly on semi isolated 2 lane highways. I was very careful to switch them off (to low beam) before the other guy was in view. So your light bar situation is similar, and perhaps the cops are more willing to look the other way in your neck of the woods as well. As long as you use them responsibly, I wouldn't mond sharing the road with you, so to speak.
Oh and I'll be adding driving lights on this Cherokee as well, when I build up enough courage...
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I see people on these forums complaining about the lights especially TH owners. Are the lights on the TH different than Latitude? I have a 15 Latitude and the stock lamps are so much better than my wife's Chrysler 200 that it's the only thing we drive at night anymore. They are also much better than my old Grand C. also. Are they different than the TH?
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I see people on these forums complaining about the lights especially TH owners. Are the lights on the TH different than Latitude? I have a 15 Latitude and the stock lamps are so much better than my wife's Chrysler 200 that it's the only thing we drive at night anymore. They are also much better than my old Grand C. also. Are they different than the TH?


TH are just raised up an inch but the stick lamps in the projection headlights are too weak to keep when so many better alternatives are out there.
My wife's old 2005 Nissan Altima had such bad stock lights you couldn't even tell if they were on in the dark when raining. Those OEM bulbs might have just as well been considered running lights. Those were the worst I had seen in my entire life.

Just adding Silverstars were such a vast improvement In rain you need to see. I get that much of the light gets refracted but OEMs should have some standards set by the NTSB.

Her older 2011 CR-V also had $hit bulbs. My daughters 2005 CR-V had better stock bulbs, but we upgraded them as well. Luckily the upgraded to LED in the newer model years.

I personally think the best headlamps you can buy are the first after purchase investment on almost any car with questionable headlamps.

What's the point if you have to crawl even in light rain or get hit by surrounding wildlife?


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Light Bar installed. Still like to have a whiter bulb in the high beams and driving lights, any ideas?
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Can you get the Phillips white bulbs for the driving lights? And what is the bulb #

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