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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 02-18-2017, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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Thinking About a XT17

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I went to the RRO Site and for $1,500 I can have the bumper and winch delivered. That is a bit more than I have, and listening to folks who off-road a lot more than me, sliders are a better first investment. I hope to buy them next month or early April. I thinking about all my time in the woods, and what I use my trailer for, having a small winch would be nice. I had a Warn PowerPlant HD on my Cummins...and only used the air compressor. Never once did I need the winch. It was sort of disappointing.

I am hoping to go up to the Iron Range and down to IL this summer, for two different off-road trips. Having an extra "hand" may come in handy, I think. In looking around, I considered a hitch mounted winch. But then I am restricted to the back. And, I cannot use it to load heavy stuff into my trailer. I can't find too much info on the Warn XT17, but I think it might do the trick. Pull tree logs away, pull loads into my trailer, and give my Jeep a little boost when needed. Obviously, if I am at a Mire 1 or deeper, it won't help me much. But, if I need a nudge to get off of some rocks or am at risk of tipping, it would help. It can also be used in front or back.

Thoughts? https://www.warn.com/adventuretouring/XT17_winch.jsp

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8.5 lbs and riggable inline between load and any fixed object...$450

Kind of expensive until you need it, then it is a great piece of hardware!

Seems like a nice rig to have aboard when out on your own in a semi-rugged environment. And, as you say it can help in situations in daily life as well since it's so portable.
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https://www.superwinch.com/collectio...winch-winch2go

I was using The Google and came across this. It has a lot more weight capacity. The price is not too bad either. https://superwinchcompanystore.com/c...c-rope-1140232

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This is for a 4500 lbs vehicle? You will over heat (the winch)and have electrical problems and may burn down your Jeep.. Be real careful use that small of a winch...the SuperWinch would be much more what you need, just remember to use good equipment, Straps and Pulleys and D rings, also with a good pulley(snatch block) you can double your line pull by coming back the the vehicle...

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https://www.superwinch.com/collectio...winch-winch2go

I was using The Google and came across this. It has a lot more weight capacity. The price is not too bad either. https://superwinchcompanystore.com/c...c-rope-1140232


Hey I hope you take my advice seriously when I say don't go cheap on the one item you are literally going to depend on to get you out.

In addition, you need 1.5x the weight of the vehicle for a winch. So, at 4000lbs (factory weight) you need at least a 6k winch. The vr8000 would do you just fine if you need to save money. Take it from someone who winches all the time.

In my case I weigh almost 6000lbs so I'd ideally need a 9k winch. But I can make do with an 8k and a few snatch blocks and just do a double or even triple line pull.

This is video of me trying to recover a Hyundai SantaFe. Weighs in at roughly 3500lbs. But was caked up to the doors in mud. This was with the warn m8000 and I didn't have enough power to winch him out without killing the battery in a matter of seconds.

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Listen to Len1304, I actually went with a 12,000 winch on my Wrangler for the reasons above....
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@Len1304 & @9Mike2, thank you both for your opinions and time. I agree. On my 2500 Cummins, I had the Warn PowerPlantHD for these reasons. I never once unspoolled the winch. If I were to go with the smaller XT17, it would be for loading my trailer and very LIGHT nudging of my Jeep. It would not be for a Mire Factor of one or more. The Army actually sent me through recovery school. I don't remember all the math...that was many years ago. I try to "like" the looks of the RRO setup, and try to ignore the constant complaints of their sub-par quality control. But as far as I know, they are the only ones with an option. Also, $1,600 is more than I want to spend. I agree, the SuperWinch box deal would have more power for my needs, and that might be the avenue I pursue.

Ideally, I would love to bolt on an aluminum front bumper with a heavy winch, like I did on my Ram. A BuckStop bumper. But, that is not an option. It is sad, the newer Renegade has more options. Likely because it is square, not shaped like a drill bit.

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@Mudman1 I've got a veteran owned and ran company near me who said they were willing to build a bumper for the Cherokee. But since price was up in the air I wasn't willing to dive in. Full bumper replacement with winch mount. Trendsetters I think is what they were called.


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Get the rock rails and go out and have fun! Meanwhile save up for a real winch with real pulling power as suggested above, worth it!


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@Mudman1 just get a more power puller... it's what I am considering buying.

http://www.baileysonline.com/shop.ax...2jIBoCbJTw_wcB

Not as easy to use, but it will help if you get in a tight spot... and it is for 3 tons

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