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I know some aluminum is as strong or stronger then some steel and the bumper already plastic so aluminum be a up grade
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This sounds good. Might I suggest a smaller windshield washer bottle in place of relocation? 1.5 gallons is a lot of fluid. Also, the front weight will need to be considered. I would opt for aluminum for a multitude of reasons. Too much weight hanging off the front will alter the dynamics in a way this platform was not designed for. Ensuring a hoop is added, or optional, for deer protection could also be adventitious. Just my few thoughts.
All good ideas, keep them coming. We talked several of these points last Fall.

1. Wash fluid tank.
Idea was to go with a liter size directly above the well liner. The forward and rear fluid lines run straight up the quarter panel. The pour spout would be located just inside the engine compartment for easy access. The wiring harness for the pump and level wouldn't have far to go.

2. Design materials.
Obviously, weight is an issue otherwise FCA wouldn't have used so much aluminum and plastic. Special consideration is given to weight owning to the fact that many KL owners are not TH owners. Materials are chosen based on capability and the intended loads. Processing and fabrication costs also need to be considered. Nobody wants to pay for a $10K titanium bumper, although I've heard it said here and other sites, "you get what you pay for". So who knows. Steel is the starting point. And if it weighs a little more, then this may be a good time to upgrade to the Dobinson spring/shock design. There's always something more isn't there? ?

3. Hoop or brush bar.
The design is very clean and uncluttered, i.e. the winch is located out of sight between the bumper and radiator. This allows a small LED light bar to be installed on the bumper inside of the hoop.

4. Air Intake.
The lower, front passenger side quarter panel houses the air intake. That has to go or be relocated. I have a K&N CAI mod so it's useless to me. I have considered a snorkel for a ram air intake, but that is down the road.

Thanks again, all ideas are welcomed.

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Photo1 shows why we need to ditch the plastic fascia and open up the front wheels to some daylight. Photo 2 shows the backside of a "dent", passenger front. I used the boiling water technique to soften the plastic then pushed it out. Removed the OE air intake (photo 3), which draws air from behind the headlight. No wonder the engine is restricted. Installed a new fender trim due to trail damage. The final result is almost "new", photo 4, until I get it on Golden Spike.
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All I can say is, if I still own my Trailhawk if this comes to market, I'll only allocate resources to it if it is made of aluminum. I am not discouraging innovation. I am just suggesting certain design aspects be examined more closely.

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Photo1 shows why we need to ditch the plastic fascia and open up the front wheels to some daylight. Photo 2 shows the backside of a "dent", passenger front. I used the boiling water technique to soften the plastic then pushed it out. Removed the OE air intake (photo 3), which draws air from behind the headlight. No wonder the engine is restricted. Installed a new fender trim due to trail damage. The final result is almost "new", photo 4, until I get it on Golden Spike.
Nice work! You didn't waist much time getting it all pretty again!! Oh and no more talk about golden spike please, it's making me have withdrawals lol!
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