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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-22-2014, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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Lug Nuts? Nope. Bolts!

I looked up a set of locking lug nuts for the Cherokee and found that they were pretty pricey. So I went out and pulled a lug nut off the Jeep to check its size (I know, I've had it a day and I'm taking it apart already - can't help myself).

Anyway, this is what we have holding our wheels on:



Not lug nuts but lug bolts! Must be that European influence. (VW, Audi, MB, Volvo, BMW...)

The good: The threads are protected and less likely to rust. The bad: Lining up the wheel can be a pain.

The threads seem to be 12mm. The hex is 19mm or 3/4".
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Yup, I saw this when the tire shop mounted my new shoes. They bolt into the rotors. Like you said, VW and others have been doing this for years. So long as they don't break, I am cool with it.

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... Lining up the wheel can be a pain.
The hex is 19mm, and because they want 100 ft-lbs of torque, 19mm is the better choice of socket.

Although lining the wheel up is more difficult, getting it on in the first place is easier -- you just put it on the hub, and it hangs there while you rotate it up to get the first bolt started. It's actually easier than having to align the wheel while lifting it. HPH
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actually it comes with a long bar in the spare tire area. you screw it in where the lug bolt comes out and use it to guide the tire and wheel on. used it when rotating tires and it works great..
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<<actually it comes with a long bar in the spare tire area. you screw it in where the lug bolt comes out and use it to guide the tire and wheel on.>>

That's a great tip. I knew that they made guides like that but didn't know that one came with the Jeep.

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<<...and because they want 100 ft-lbs of torque...>>

Is that the 'official' wheel bolt torque? Good to know.

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@onefunkar - Thanks for the tip on the alignment pin. Here's some stuff from the manual:

7. Remove the alignment pin from the jack assembly and
thread the pin into the wheel hub to assist in mounting
the spare tire.

Torque Specifications
Lug Nut/Bolt Torque - 100 Ft-Lbs (135 N·m)
**Lug Nut/Bolt Size - M12 x 1.25
Lug Nut/Bolt Socket Size - 19 mm

**Use only Chrysler recommended lug nuts/bolts and
clean or remove any dirt or oil before tightening.
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Not lug nuts but lug bolts! Must be that European influence. (VW, Audi, MB, Volvo, BMW...)
Exact, that's the European style of mounting wheels
The only reason for that is, the threats could not be damaged when placing wheel on the hub.
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I think having two of those wheel guide pins would be handy to have around the garage. Screwing two onto the hub would make mounting the wheel a snap. I wonder what they cost?

Edit: I found them aftermarket. What the conversion from Euros to dollars?
http://www.autoinparts.com/Wheel_nuts,_bolts,_locks,_spacers_and_accessories-Quick_Align_Wheel_Tool/c628_962/p112626/Quick_Align_Wheel_Tool_-_M12_x_1.25_Thread_-_Fiat_Fitment/product_info.html

Here are some really nice ones but unfortunately not available in the 1.25 thread pitch: http://www.autowerksofamerica.com/pr...guide-tool.htm

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not sure what they cost but after rotating tires one works fine. made it pretty easy to line up.
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