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post #11 of 94 (permalink) Old 11-05-2015, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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After looking at my shafts today i noticed they are straight shafts. Curious to see if anyone with a 16' or a 15' or 14' has had their shafts replaced and still gotten a wobble? Maybe this needs to be brought to FCA's attention?
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After looking at my shafts today i noticed they are straight shafts. Curious to see if anyone with a 16' or a 15' or 14' has had their shafts replaced and still gotten a wobble? Maybe this needs to be brought to FCA's attention?
Uhm... have you read the TSB thread I linked to a few posts up ? It's full of success stories, meaning the fix works. I don't believe we've had a single member out of that big bunch who has complained of a persistent or returning wobble after getting stepped half shafts. As long as the wobble is the one targetted by the TSB, not another vibration, the stepped shafts work.

Now FCA needs to address the FWD wobble. They haven't, yet. And the 2016 AD1s as well.
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I have a 2016 Limited w/ AD1. I do not seem have a side-side wobble but what feels like a slipping clutch pack. A slight surging and then a backing off of power that happens at about 1 cycle per sec and only lasts a few seconds. It only seems to happen in 3rd gear and with slightly moderate acceleration. With light or heavy acceleration it does not occur. Does this sound like the "wobble" or something different??? Other than that the only thing wrong w/ the transmission is the 1st > 2nd gear shift. The torque converter unlocks for nearly a whole second before shifting into 2nd and re-locking. This causes an extreme loss of power, usually just when you need the power to accelerate from a stop.

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After looking at my shafts today i noticed they are straight shafts. Curious to see if anyone with a 16' or a 15' or 14' has had their shafts replaced and still gotten a wobble? Maybe this needs to be brought to FCA's attention?
Mine are straight too and notice a slight wobble from a slow acceleration. My plans are to wait a while to see if the TSB is updated and discuss it with the dealer at my first maintenance. This will probably happen in January/February based on my typical mileage. It will do several things--trigger something at the dealer and/or Chrysler to take a look at the TSB to include 2016s, determine how well my dealer support is and if needed find out how good the escalation path is with all others that can assist.

My guess is if we are seeing it, there are plenty of others that will be coming forward in the coming weeks/months.
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After looking at my shafts today i noticed they are straight shafts. Curious to see if anyone with a 16' or a 15' or 14' has had their shafts replaced and still gotten a wobble? Maybe this needs to be brought to FCA's attention?
I have a 2014 Limited and had the wobble from day one. Had the 1/2 shafts replaced after 6 months with the same straight shafts and the wobble returned. The step shafts were put in about a month ago and NO wobble whatsoever. Keep after the dealer to have them replaced. They may not do it until they come out with a TSB for the 2016 though.
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Just an idea. All of you with AD1 2016s who feel a wobble per TSB should bypass dealers and contact FCA directly. I wouldn't trust any dealer service department to take the lead - to contact FCA in a situation like this. Do it yourselves and press for action, TSB in hand.
Same for wobbly FWDs.
FCA will eventually act if enough people complain. If they claim to have fixed the wobble on 2016s while retaining straight shafts, ask them to appoint a trained tech to assess your vehicule's wobble.

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Big moose posted all ready new half shafts bent one's 3 weeks and no wobble.reflashed Transmission again shifting at proper time. Happy thanksgiving eat a lot then take your jeep out for a run
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Has anyone noticed a wobble in the 2016's?? I've got one and feel as if it wobbles a little from a complete stop up until about 20 mph.
As stated elsewhere on this thread, no point in waiting. If you have the wobble, the indication is that FCA will fix it. I had mine done. I have the stepped half shafts now on my 2015 Sport w/ AD1 and the wobble is gone. 1 month + and no wobble. It's a big fix…$2000+ per shaft, but FCA foots the bill. Git 'er done!
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Video of the wobble

Does anyone by chance have a video of the actual wobble. I want to make sure I'm not just paranoid of it happening before taking it in as the dealer I deal with is 40 miles one way. 😄 Happy thanksgiving all.
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Does anyone by chance have a video of the actual wobble. I want to make sure I'm not just paranoid of it happening before taking it in as the dealer I deal with is 40 miles one way. 😄 Happy thanksgiving all.
There are no videos that I know of. This wobble is not like the death wobbles you see on YouTube ; those are severe and can actually show on a video. The AD1 wobble is not severe, though very annoying, and very real. I guess someone with the know-how and proper telemetry could *record* the shimmy and prove its presence visually on camera, but it hasn't been done (that I know of..).

It's actually pretty straightforward : *the wobble* occurs on light acceleration from a stop, between 15 and 20mph (give or take one or two mphs), in second gear. It is a light/moderate side-to-side shimmy that lasts roughly one to two seconds, no more. As you climb above 20mph and the tranny shifts into third, the wobble stops.
It is usually worse if you climb up a hill as you accelerate, or if you turn right as you accelerate.

This wobble requires the AD1 system and straight front half shafts (as seen in the TSB).

Not all AD1 Cherokees with straight half shafts have this wobble. Those who have noticed it early, so it does not appear to be a problem that surfaces sometime down the road : you have it or you don't. If you don't have it, no need to get stepped shafts.
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