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post #21 of 81 (permalink) Old 11-27-2016, 07:15 PM
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Yep. I can confirm for VW, being the new owner of a Beetle, having purchased new winter wheel/tire combo + new lug bolts.
Took me a while to figure out why Amazon kept saying *does not fit* when I was looking at M14x1.5 lug bolts, with the correct shank lenght.
And then it hit me... VW and Audi wheels have ball seats (aka spherical or radius seats), not conical (aka tapered or acorn seats).
And the aftermarket wheels I purchased where VW specific, so it's a good thing I looked this up before buying.

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Yup, Mercedes uses a ball seat as well, but it's a different radius. (Different shank width too)
I had to use conversion studs on my UrS6 to run Merc specific BBS RY's.

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Took out the calculator. It's easy to cheat on socket size for these 19mm bolts.
3/4" socket is actually 19,05mm which is pretty darn close.
0,05mm equals roughly 0,002 inches (or 2 thousandths).

I'm thinking I'll switch to a 3/4 socket for those few damaged bolts, giving me a little wiggle room, and see what happens. But only in the spring during changeover
Sounds good in theory, but not in my actual use. You are assuming that your sockets measure exactly what they are suppose to measure. I have had better luck removing the cap all together, after it has been damaged, then using a snug fitting socket on that solid bolt head. Don't get hung up on the math- use any socket that fits snug, not too tight or loose. I will replace all my lug nuts when I find a good solid, not capped set.
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Sounds good in theory, but not in my actual use. You are assuming that your sockets measure exactly what they are suppose to measure. I have had better luck removing the cap all together, after it has been damaged, then using a snug fitting socket on that solid bolt head. Don't get hung up on the math- use any socket that fits snug, not too tight or loose. I will replace all my lug nuts when I find a good solid, not capped set.
Agreed.
My thinking was that sockets are manufactured to tight spec, and using one 0,002" bigger on a gripping bolt head may actually work better (3/4" instead of 19mm).

About ripping the caps off : I'd like to be able to do that, but from memory when I tried on some Liberty nuts, it seemed like one heck of a job... and these lug bolts seem to have some thicker ones.
Funny thing is I don't care for chromed bolt heads for my Latitude wheels because they don't have a chrome finish ; only Limited wheels have that I think. So *dull* bolt heads would work just fine for me. If I could take those caps off...

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I think the aftermarket availability of a solid head bolt is slow as it is only a KL, PF, UF part for now. The big players in the suppliers for the Tire industry like Meyers Tire Supply will surely come up with an alternative.
I Don't think the big tire chains will be willing to pay for OEM for long. As the PF and UF have been dumped, there are still a lot of them out there in rental fleets.
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Santa ? : https://www.amazon.com/Otis-Inc-Tita...iat+lug+boltds
(too bad those are 1/4" too short... lol)

The only solid head bolts I'm finding in Canada are tuner bolts, and maybe the Otis (not titanium) ones have solid heads, but there is very little info on them online.
I can wait...

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which length shank did you get? 28 or 40mm?

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which length shank did you get? 28 or 40mm?
The link shows 28mm, which is the correct lenght (threaded lenght). 40mm would not go in all the way on a Cherokee hub (12mm longer = 1/2" too long). Unless you have spacers.

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Yup. I ordered the 28mm.

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Do you think they Will Fit?
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No they won't fit a Cherokee. We have 12mm x 1.25 in the hubs (1.25 is the thread), so these with a 1.5 thread will not screw into the hub...

Late edit to add : I looked at the compatibility chart for those adaptor studs on eBay. They don't have the Cherokee in there but they do list the Fiat 500 and the Jeep Renegade : I don't know what size are the lug bolts on a 500, but these studs will not fit a Renegade because they (Renegades) have the same 1.25 thread we have on the Cherokees, so the chart is wrong. I even found a guy on the Renegade forums who tried to screw in a 1.5 thread stud (on a Renegade hub) and found it definitely did not go in, though he forced it and messed up the stud (and likely the threads inside the hub too).

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