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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-20-2017, 02:53 PM Thread Starter
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New shoes arrived this morning and had them installed by lunch!
Initial impressions are that they are a little quieter on the road than the Firestones. Good steering feel.
They took some wet S bends with no drama whatsoever at 80 KM/H where the Firestones had previously felt slippery....... so wet weather performance seems to have improved. Sounds like we are in for some more snow and ice tomorrow, so hopefully I can give my impressions of that.
They are definitely not the most aggressive "looking" AT tire (which is a minor disappointment)......I think Cooper would sell way more of them if they added some more aggressive sidewall lugs (ala K02), but for this TH's overall mission, they are the best choice.
I do like the look with the slightly wider and taller tire (plus the "yahoo" RWL is now gone...I prefer it all black), can't wait to try 'em out in the snow and offroad.

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I have determined that these tires are no fun whatsoever.........
We had a nice dusting of snow today and try as I might I can't get this thing to break loose anywhere near "fun" levels. (The Firestones would have been sliding all over the place)
Threw it in sport mode in a slippery parking lot and all it does is dig in and go. No kick out, no fishtails, nothing......
Great for traction and quite impressive for handling snow and ice, but the fun has left the building....at least the wife will be overjoyed......lol

Although...........if they handle mud this well.......
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Those look nice, only issue I would think is you would give up 5-10% (1-2 mpg) vs a Snowflake/Mountain rated LRR tire such as the Yokohama Geolandar g015.

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Those look nice, only issue I would think is you would give up 5-10% (1-2 mpg) vs a Snowflake/Mountain rated LRR tire such as the Yokohama Geolandar g015.
So far mileage seems to have improved over the Firestones (just one 350km round trip on the highway, so not a huge body of comparison yet)
I wasn't overly concerned about mileage, mostly the best winter performance possible from an all-year AT......I think Cooper has definitely nailed it. So far, everything I've put them through makes me feel that they are outperforming many dedicated winter tires I've had in the past.

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Snow performance of these tires is fantastic!
I finally had a chance to go out and crawl up a snow covered hill that (only three weeks ago) the Firestones could not make. The old tires had spun and slipped and slid and managed to scrabble halfway up the hill when I took a run at it, but no more.
The Coopers went up the exact same area on fresh unpacked snow (same conditions) like it was dirt. They barely spun at all and just dug in and climbed to the top.
Very impressive and what a difference good rubber makes.......I am certain now that these things definitely outperform some dedicated winters I've had.
Awesome bonus that they're year round tires.....can't wait to try them in the mud this summer......
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Snow performance of these tires is fantastic!
I finally had a chance to go out and crawl up a snow covered hill that (only three weeks ago) the Firestones could not make. The old tires had spun and slipped and slid and managed to scrabble halfway up the hill when I took a run at it, but no more.
The Coopers went up the exact same area on fresh unpacked snow (same conditions) like it was dirt. They barely spun at all and just dug in and climbed to the top.
Very impressive and what a difference good rubber makes.......I am certain now that these things definitely outperform some dedicated winters I've had.
Awesome bonus that they're year round tires.....can't wait to try them in the mud this summer......
That's one of the things about the Destinations, they are not winter-rated, even though they are considered an A/T tire. If you see a tire with the snow/mountain symbol on it, then you know it's made for the heavy winter stuff, which is what those Cooper tires are. Another A/T tire I know off-hand that has the same symbol are the BFG KO2's, which I hear good things about.

I'm probably at around half-tread left with my Destinations, so I'll be in the market for some new rubber this year I'm sure. I'll be keeping the Coopers in mind, as well as the BFGs. And yeah, definitely let us know how they fair in the summer months.

Looking at Cooper's website, are the XT4's only available in Canada or something?

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That's one of the things about the Destinations, they are not winter-rated, even though they are considered an A/T tire. If you see a tire with the snow/mountain symbol on it, then you know it's made for the heavy winter stuff, which is what those Cooper tires are. Another A/T tire I know off-hand that has the same symbol are the BFG KO2's, which I hear good things about.

I'm probably at around half-tread left with my Destinations, so I'll be in the market for some new rubber this year I'm sure. I'll be keeping the Coopers in mind, as well as the BFGs. And yeah, definitely let us know how they fair in the summer months.

Looking at Cooper's website, are the XT4's only available in Canada or something?
Yes, X/T4 is a Canadian only version.....the US gets the A/TW which doesn't have as many favourable sizes for our rigs.
245//70R17 is pretty much the only choice you can use in those.
Fortunately the X/T4 has a 255/65R17 which is just slightly oversize.

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So no rubbing at all with 255/65-17 even at full lock and compression? I think I'm going with this size.

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So no rubbing at all with 255/65-17 even at full lock and compression? I think I'm going with this size.
None whatsoever and they definitely look meatier than the old Firestones

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ill stick with falken tires lol...coopers look nice though..been a falken guy for years not one issue..

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