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post #31 of 48 (permalink) Old 03-09-2017, 08:09 PM
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good luck guys im happy with the lift i have ...

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FYI the revised MFC lift now does not require the removal of the strut from the knuckle. We designed a two piece extension over the original 1 piece.

Super! Great News! This is like those banks that offer super interest rates for new customers and leave their existing customers out in the cold. I still have an uninstalled MFC lift kit with one piece rings that I can't install (tried, I am not mechanically inclined enough...or maybe I just won't delve too deeply into dismantling my front suspension). $615USD in the hole. for a set of aluminum paperweights.

Wanna swap my one piece units for these new fangled two piece units? It was my idea after all. I even posted a cadd drawing of how it could work, way back.
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Super! Great News! This is like those banks that offer super interest rates for new customers and leave their existing customers out in the cold. I still have an uninstalled MFC lift kit with one piece rings that I can't install (tried, I am not mechanically inclined enough...or maybe I just won't delve too deeply into dismantling my front suspension). $615USD in the hole. for a set of aluminum paperweights.



Wanna swap my one piece units for these new fangled two piece units? It was my idea after all. I even posted a cadd drawing of how it could work, way back.


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And for use on the stock strut? ...or on a coil-over?
What I'm driving at: It was presented as though you were making a plate that would allow camber correction with a stock strut. If this is the case, that is awesome. If it isn't it should be clarified. @myfirstcherokee
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@mfcoffroad do you have photos of the new 2 piece design for the front. That sounds great if now that you say you don't have to that the front apart anymore.
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Increased the front height myself.
Went and bought a 98 cent 2" pvc coupling, cut it in half, then cut it down to about 25mm ( mm to inches is .98 inches, so I just did 1", to use as my guide spacer.
Used a 7/16 drill bit to drill out a new hole and re installed the aftermarket bolt.
Now it's almost leveled out but still slight rake.
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It would've had to alter the camber. However, it is possible that it remained within spec. Our left (driver) side was fine. Only the passenger side was out.

Very few vehicles with struts have camber adjustments. With a typical bolt in style strut, it is common to open or slot the mounting holes. To allow for inward/outward movement which would allow correction. The KL has a special bearing type upper mount that makes this approach impossible. Another common fix is to make different length or adjustable lower arms. This too is tricky with the KL. For one; it is cast aluminium, but the larger issue is the type of joint used at the frame side connections.

Without a way to move the upper strut mount or a way to change the lower arm length, lifting the KL any amount WILL create more positive camber than it had prior to a lift. In many cases it stays in spec, but not all.
Untrue, a lot of cars have camber adjustment with a typical style upper strut mount. They just have slots instead of holes for the strut to mount in so you can slide it back and forth to get it in spec. Most, if not all, struts have the bearing upper mount as it's required to mitigate the rotation of the strut during motion.

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It's about **** time, I'm surprised it took this long for someone to come out with this. If it fits the stock strut, you'll sell tons of them for a lot of money each.

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Do it yourself or not, I have found the MFC's aluminum lift version to function very well on the many Badge of Honor trails I have done. Its held up great, and done its job. It also held up very well this Utah winter against corrosion with lots of road salt splashed on it.
FWIW, I've done a few BoH trails with my Hazzard lift and it worked just fine. Have about 7k on mine so far with zero issues and zero movement of the strut through all of the rough driving. Also been through the MN winter (and potholes lol) with zero issues. I'll check it out again after it gets warm out.

Just wanted to throw it out there that both lifts perform adequately under stress.

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Untrue, a lot of cars have camber adjustment with a typical style upper strut mount. They just have slots instead of holes for the strut to mount in so you can slide it back and forth to get it in spec. Most, if not all, struts have the bearing upper mount as it's required to mitigate the rotation of the strut during motion.
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What exactly is untrue? The quote you made of me says a common fix is adding/using slots for inward outward movement. My experience is very few vehicles are manufactured with slots for this, but I never said they didn't exist.

I wouldn't get too excited about the camber correction plates for the stock strut either... @myfirstcherokee has yet to clarify if this is only for his coil-over or will be usable with the factory strut.

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What exactly is untrue? The quote you made of me says a common fix is adding/using slots for inward outward movement. My experience is very few vehicles are manufactured with slots for this, but I never said they didn't exist.

I wouldn't get too excited about the camber correction plates for the stock strut either... @myfirstcherokee has yet to clarify if this is only for his coil-over or will be usable with the factory strut.
It's not a fix, they ship from the factory that way. Most German cars are built this way as are Hondas (all I can verify for now). I can lower my S2000 and adjust the camber by moving my top strut because it has the slots to do so, did the same with my old 330xi as well. Had friends with VW GTI's that have the same features.

I agree that he hasn't mentioned anything. Regardless, they'll cost eleventy billion dollars to buy because supply and demand...

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