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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-20-2017, 04:15 AM Thread Starter
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Thoughts on these tires I'm considering?

I'm shopping for tires, planning on buying a set of all-terrains in the next week or two. I don't really know squat about tires, other than what I've just learned in the past few hours. I've never owned a 4x4 vehicle and done much off-pavement driving, either, so I've always just bought whatever on-road tires the tire shop recommended. This will be my first set of tires I've purchased since I bought my (used) Latitude last summer, and this time, I'd like to make a more informed decision. I'll likely be purchasing these tires online, from either tirerack.com or simpletire.com

99+% of my driving is on pavement in either dry or rainy conditions. It doesn't snow in my immediate area (Northern California), but I occasionally visit a few places up in the mountains that may have snow in the winter. I also try to go camping at least a few times a year, and I like to find some relatively remote places to camp. (Dirt roads tend to keep the crowds out, and I actually like to enjoy the peace, quiet and solitude nature provides, without a bunch of obnoxious college kids getting belligerent and blasting shitty music. Fuqk me, right?) My in-laws just got a little place <5 minutes from the Tahoe National Forest border, so I'm really hoping to get out and explore that area this summer. So while these tires will live a mostly domesticated life, they need to be able to perform when it's their time to shine. I won't be doing any real heavy-duty off-roading, mostly just the average un-maintained, rural dirt road type stuff. I like an aggressive look, although aggressive performance is much more important. I've narrowed it down to a few choices. What are your guys' thoughts on these tires I'm looking at?

Cooper Discoverer A/T3 (these come with a rebate from Cooper in the form of a $70 Visa gift card)
Toyo Open Country A/T II
Yokohama Geolandar G015
Kumho Road Venture AT51

I've heard a lot of great things about the BF Goodrich KO2, but it's about $15-30 per tire more than any of these others. Is it worth the difference?

Another thing I'd like your opinion on is tire size. Currently I have the stock Firestone Destinations in 225/65/17. Though around the forum I'm noticing a lot of people are running larger tires. Would I benefit much from jumping up to say, a 245/70/17? With those tires I referenced, the price difference is about an extra $5-10 per tire. Why should or shouldn't I spend an extra $20-40 to go a little bigger?

225 * .65 = 146.25
245 * .70 = 171.50

I understand the mathematics of it, but how do those numbers translate into real-world performance? Or affect other considerations, such as speedometer calibration?

Thanks in advance for any insight you guys can give!

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Just for some clarification, do you have the Trailhawk trim, or one of the other ones? I only ask because you mention you have the Firestone Desti's, and those are standard on the Trailhawk trim, which is also a wider tire than the other trims at 245/65/17. Do you have the FS Desti's on a non-Trailhawk model currently, which would be that 225/65/17 tire size you're mentioning?

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To the best of my knowledge there is no way to adjust the speedometer for the KL yet. The dealer can do it but only for "stock" sizes. The TH 245/65r17 should be a selection for them to use, but I really don't know.

Having said that, the amount the speedometer off isn't something I have been to concerned with. We run a 265/65r17 (31x10.50) on the four corners and keep a 245/70r17 that is the same height but fits in the factory spare location for the spare. Our speedo is off 3mph at 70.

Most ATs will give you fine road manners while offering a little more traction and toughness for the dirt. I personally would only look at the Coopers in your list. We have been really happy with Goodyear tires but they run more than what you are looking at. BFGs are also hard to beat but they too will run more.

As for the increased sizes.... I think it's 90% about looks and 10% function. The added ground clearance they are gaining really isn't enough to make a huge difference on the trail. There are times where that little bit can be all the difference, but it really isn't that often.

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Just for some clarification, do you have the Trailhawk trim, or one of the other ones? I only ask because you mention you have the Firestone Desti's, and those are standard on the Trailhawk trim, which is also a wider tire than the other trims at 245/65/17. Do you have the FS Desti's on a non-Trailhawk model currently, which would be that 225/65/17 tire size you're mentioning?
He did mention Latitude in the post. My Latitude also came with Firestone Desti's : the difference is the TH has the A/T variety in 245 and Latitudes get the LE2 variety in 225.

To @RhinosGoMoo : I'll let others who know answer this, but I'm not sure 245/70/17 fit on a non lifted AD1 Latitude (or AD1 Sport) without rubbing. Do you have AD1 or AD2 ? If unsure, AD2 has a Neutral and 4Lo on the SelecTerrain knob while AD1 does not.
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To @RhinosGoMoo : I'll let others who know answer this, but I'm not sure 245/70/17 fit on a non lifted AD1 Latitude (or AD1 Sport) without rubbing. Do you have AD1 or AD2 ? If unsure, AD2 has a Neutral and 4Lo on the SelecTerrain knob while AD1 does not.
Good call.... I wasn't even thinking that far...
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Something else to consider. This size, 245/70r17, is the largest size that fits into the rear storage compartment, if that is a preference you have.
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He did mention Latitude in the post. My Latitude also came with Firestone Desti's : the difference is the TH has the A/T variety in 245 and Latitudes get the LE2 variety in 225.

To @RhinosGoMoo : I'll let others who know answer this, but I'm not sure 245/70/17 fit on a non lifted AD1 Latitude (or AD1 Sport) without rubbing. Do you have AD1 or AD2 ? If unsure, AD2 has a Neutral and 4Lo on the SelecTerrain knob while AD1 does not.

I must've missed that in his post. Should've done a search before posting.

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I've used Cooper AT3's before and liked them, next to no noise and their performance in mud is way better than their design would suggest. Snow performance is also very good.
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I'll let others who know answer this, but I'm not sure 245/70/17 fit on a non lifted AD1 Latitude (or AD1 Sport) without rubbing. Do you have AD1 or AD2 ? If unsure, AD2 has a Neutral and 4Lo on the SelecTerrain knob while AD1 does not.
I have non-lifted AD1 Latitude.
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I have non-lifted AD1 Latitude.
Thanks. And like I said before, I haven't tried, but I think the biggest you can go on a non lifted AD1 is stock TH size (245/65/17). Going with 245/70 that is one full inch higher than 245/65 and 2 inches taller than 225/65 may be a problem, without a lift...

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