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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 03-22-2017, 08:56 PM
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the fact that they tried to sell you fluid flushes and an alignment makes me think id not worry about the brakes. before pads are worn you get a chirping sound when not applying the brakes which will go away when you hit the brakes. if stopping is still smooth rotors are fine.
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Ok thanks onefunkar , stopping is smooth. Not chirping sounds when not applying the brakes. There is however the slightest sound of grinding coming from the front left when I do brake. So maybe I do need pads done ?


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look at front rotors thru the wheels. if pads worn they will be ruined and have grooves and scrapes in them. should look and feel pretty smooth. dont touch them when they are hot from driving.
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Ok thanks I'll do that. So if I look in and everything is smooth the rotors are fine?


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if brakes pads were worn out and eating into rotors they would be badly scrapped up. if smooth braking when you hit the brakes they arnt warped.
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look at front rotors thru the wheels. if pads worn they will be ruined and have grooves and scrapes in them. should look and feel pretty smooth. dont touch them when they are hot from driving.
This is poor advice. Rotors can be silky smooth and still be in desperate need of replacement.
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Hey guys
Brought my jeep in to the dealership for an oil check, recall job and some software updates, this was quite to be $230 all up

They reached out saying I need my brake pads and rotors replaced, they also wanted to flush all engine fluids and a wheel alignment which was taking me up to $1920 , my jaw dropped.

I said no it all saying I'll get the pads and rotors done elsewhere.
I'm looking at maybe buying the pads and rotors myself then getting a local mechanic to fit them. I've changed pads before myself but never the rotors.

Anyone recommend the best route here.
I came across these
http://www.crossdrilledrotors.ca/pre...ds-168595.html

But not sure how the prices are in comparison. For anyone who knows how much on average do you spend on pads and rotors.

Any information much appreciated I'm committed to getting this done considerable cheaper than the dealership were offering

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Actually I would look at your maintenance schedule and save yourself some cash.
Fluids are lifetime and coolant is 10/150 I believe. So unless you are pouring on the mileage and or Towing heavy those are not needed yet.
In the old days, yes it might actually be time to change the fluids. I would do mine every 2 years only because I did moderate towing.
But these days synthetic fluid is the fluid of chose. The same issue is oil changes are different these days than even a few years ago.
The dealer is obviously on the old schedule and trying to drum up business. The maintenance schedule is the FCA requirement not the dealer.
So unless you have dirty coolant and/or you are at the 10/150 limit it does not need to be changed.
Those fluids, especially the transmission are expensive.
But I do care about maintenance as its the most important thing you can do for your vehicle.
I also realize that there is no such thing as Lifetime fluid but 10 years/100k should be a good marker for that change unless you tow.

Your brakes are a different matter. I have usually gotten 35-40k out of the front ones(pads}. The front rotors usually have to be ground at 25 and replaced at the first front end brake job. The rear ones I have never touched on the last 3 Jeeps.
Usually its the front ones that go first as they get most of the work, especially because I tow.
When I do replace them my dealer has done them. They are generally a bit higher but I have been happy with the work they did, used OEM parts, and never did more than they had to.

I would be careful with this dealer only because of the recommended fluid changes situation you encountered. Most quality shops can do brake jobs and will give you a chose of quality pads and rotors.
I'd shop around and talk to a couple for estimates and quality parts.
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Stay away from cross drilled rotors its basically bling.
In some cases this is true, but there are many more where drilled and/or slotted rotors are a huge advantage.

Every brake pad material s different, but the OEM material does a pretty good job of maintaining the coefficient of friction to approx 550 degrees (F) then drops like a cliff and there is literally no braking near 700. Many aftermarket materials are capable of working well to nearly 1500 degrees, but the sacrifice is they need to be heated up a bit to work well. In fact, some race brakes do not even work right until they are above 400 degrees.

Since, we need our road car's brakes to work from cold, there isn't much we can do it alter the pad material... So if you are hard on brakes, tow, and/or have larger tires, the next best thing to keep your brakes happy and working is to keep them cool. Drilled and/or slotted rotors allow gasses to escape and have a massive effect on cooling the rotor and pad but yield no disadvantage to cold stopping.

They are far from "bling", but I do agree not everyone needs them.
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@Len1304 A bit off topic, but how has your pedal responsiveness been? We put this kit on our JKU and while it stops much better we did loose some cold brake pedal feel. (Kinda like there is some air in the lines but only cold, and I know there isn't.) http://sevenslotsyndicate.com/blog/118-2/

We have since installed this kit on two other JKs with similar results so I'm thinking it's a pad material thing. We will be testing another JK brake upgrade soon, so time will tell for sure. I still owe this article/review a follow-up.

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@Len1304 A bit off topic, but how has your pedal responsiveness been? We put this kit on our JKU and while it stops much better we did loose some cold brake pedal feel. (Kinda like there is some air in the lines but only cold, and I know there isn't.) http://sevenslotsyndicate.com/blog/118-2/



We have since installed this kit on two other JKs with similar results so I'm thinking it's a pad material thing. We will be testing another JK brake upgrade soon, so time will tell for sure. I still owe this article/review a follow-up.


I get that feeling in 4lo. Like no matter how hard I press the pedal it won't stop. But I had that problem with my factory rotors too. On the road I have a much more firm pedal. I'm almost 10k miles into my rotors and pads and feel it was a worth upgrade but I do wish the pads had more bite. Cold these are noisy and have a very inconsistent pedal. One moment I can use light braking to come to a stop, the next I need a good firm brake to come to a stop. But, I can react fast enough to that. It was a price I was willing to pay for the assurance my brake will hold up under the torture of weight or even while towing.


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