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View Poll Results: Which tire?
Cooper Discoverer A/T3 6 23.08%
Yokohama Geolander A/T GO15 6 23.08%
Hankook Dynapro AT-M 6 23.08%
Kumho Road Venture AT51 3 11.54%
Falken Wildpeak AT3W 5 19.23%
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post #21 of 77 (permalink) Old 04-15-2017, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
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My choice is the Cooper AT/3s as well. I have them on my Commander in 255s. They have never failed me in sand, mud, dirt, rock or asphalt. Only weakness is the sidewall, which is also why they're so comfortable and provide good feedback. I've punctured a couple.
How are yours wearing? The one common complaint I've found about the AT3s is poor tread life. Thanks.

FWIW, the common complaint I've read in owner reviews about the Hankooks is excessive noise as they wear. Oddly Consumer Reports rated the Hankooks as the best A/T tire in 2016 but user reviews on their website don't agree, rating them as 3.6 out of 5 with many noise complaints. Elsewhere the Falkens are said to have half-depth siping and when it's gone they become loud and slippery. I saw the usual random complaints about all of these tires but the only the Firestones, Yokohamas and Kumhos were generally rated as faultless.

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I can't testify much to their off-road performance, but I have the Geolandars on my limited, and have been very happy with them. They might be louder than the Continentals it came with, but I still don't know if that's my imagination or not, and they've performed great in the snow (both what little we got in Baltimore this year, and also in Illinois where I go camping every winter in rural areas with unplowed dirt roads).


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How are yours wearing? The one common complaint I've found about the AT3s is poor tread life. Thanks.
Miserably, brutally, and efficiently well. I've had them for 2 years and 20,000 miles and they don't show negligible wear outside an odd micro chunk or scuffing on the outside treads from rock climbing and off road hazards. They wear frustratingly well. Very well and are still soft, compliant, have superior mechanical keying properties on hard, slick surfaces. No loss of grip at all this last season in mud, snow and rain. Sipes are still pliable and going strong. I'm also religious about tire pressure, I check and top them off to +/- 1 psi of each other obsessively. Maybe that has something to do with my wear and durability.

I'm frustrated because I want to move up to 265s from the 255s but I don't change tires unless there's a need. My "wants" are NOT needs. That's the way I am.

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You'll see me actually off roading these tire on the Silver '08 Commander, and you'll actually see the Firestones doing duty on the Trailhawk as well. I've been satisfied with both of them. Never let me down.
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FWIW, the common complaint I've read in owner reviews about the Hankooks is excessive noise as they wear. Oddly Consumer Reports rated the Hankooks as the best A/T tire in 2016 but user reviews on their website don't agree, rating them as 3.6 out of 5 with many noise complaints. Elsewhere the Falkens are said to have half-depth siping and when it's gone they become loud and slippery. I saw the usual random complaints about all of these tires but the only the Firestones, Yokohamas and Kumhos were generally rated as faultless.
Thoughts on "Consumer Reports" (CR). I refuse to read them outside the odd reviews on things I actually know about. They're hacks. I used to sell cameras, and then high-end audio in college to help with tuition.

They would consistently rank features per dollar over quality and function. For example, Richo's would finish higher than Nikons and Canons consistently. Sure, they had all the AE priority programming, buttons and features at a lower price but their lenses weren't as good as the Nikkors or Canon optics. They didn't perform as well in harsh Ohio State winters and humid summers either. We got to check them out and play with them as employees and for my weekend Wedding and Portrait Gigs I'd always choose the Nikon or Canon. I still own my employee purchase Nikon F3/T and lenses 27 years later. Still using the lenses too.

Then in my home audio job my worst days were when Consumer Reports carrying customers would walk through the door with their smug grins. They'd point out how superior CR ranked the Pioneer, Sansui, Sony (non-ES line)... and then proceed to tell me how we're over charging for under powered (by watts) receivers and how integrated amplifiers are a scam... etc. I'd have to spend the next 20-minutes with a notepad explaining integrated circuits versus solid state electronics to them while smiling about how watts is not the true measurement and amps is more important. Then a demonstration with a Class A 2-watt amp against a 200 watt mass market Pioneer receiver would make their jaw drop. At that point I'd either made a friend and potential sale, or I'd have a gruff and embarrassed ex-customer still arguing with me.
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I can't testify much to their off-road performance, but I have the Geolandars on my limited, and have been very happy with them. They might be louder than the Continentals it came with, but I still don't know if that's my imagination or not, and they've performed great in the snow (both what little we got in Baltimore this year, and also in Illinois where I go camping every winter in rural areas with unplowed dirt roads).


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Thanks. It's good to hear more firsthand experience. So far the Geolanders have the most recommendations although I'm surprised at how few people have actually voted in the poll. At the previous car forums I've belonged to polls were more popular. I feel very confident that I'd be happy with the Yokohamas or Firestones. Pretty sure that the Coopers or Kumhos would also do the trick and for various reasons I'm not as interested in the Falkens and Hankooks anymore.

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Just took my Cooper A/T3s off road for the first time today. Mudddddy muddy muddy! These tires performed fantastically!! Lots of puddles of standing water, and some very slushy mud several inches deep. My Coopers on the AD1 Latitude in Sand/Mud mode trekked right through it all. Lots of dirt and gravel in the dry parts, and it may as well have been asphalt. I don't know how it measures against other tires, but I am very pleased with my decision to go with the Discoverers. BTW, I'm on Tapatalk, I had no idea there was a poll.

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Miserably, brutally, and efficiently well. I've had them for 2 years and 20,000 miles and they don't show negligible wear outside an odd micro chunk or scuffing on the outside treads from rock climbing and off road hazards. They wear frustratingly well. Very well and are still soft, compliant, have superior mechanical keying properties on hard, slick surfaces. No loss of grip at all this last season in mud, snow and rain. Sipes are still pliable and going strong. I'm also religious about tire pressure, I check and top them off to +/- 1 psi of each other obsessively. Maybe that has something to do with my wear and durability.

I'm frustrated because I want to move up to 265s from the 255s but I don't change tires unless there's a need. My "wants" are NOT needs. That's the way I am.

Pop over to my instagram page

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You'll see me actually off roading these tire on the Silver '08 Commander, and you'll actually see the Firestones doing duty on the Trailhawk as well. I've been satisfied with both of them. Never let me down.
Thanks. I can't believe the water you drove your Cherokee through! Bow wave over the hood! Speaking of tire pressure, the TPMS showing individual tire pressures is one of my favorite Cherokee features. Supposedly my oem tires came filled with nitrogen but I doubt it based on the pressure changing as much as 5psi just driving to work.

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Thoughts on "Consumer Reports" (CR). I refuse to read them outside the odd reviews on things I actually know about. They're hacks. I used to sell cameras, and then high-end audio in college to help with tuition.

They would consistently rank features per dollar over quality and function. For example, Richo's would finish higher than Nikons and Canons consistently. Sure, they had all the AE priority programming, buttons and features at a lower price but their lenses weren't as good as the Nikkors or Canon optics. They didn't perform as well in harsh Ohio State winters and humid summers either. We got to check them out and play with them as employees and for my weekend Wedding and Portrait Gigs I'd always choose the Nikon or Canon. I still own my employee purchase Nikon F3/T and lenses 27 years later. Still using the lenses too.

Then in my home audio job my worst days were when Consumer Reports carrying customers would walk through the door with their smug grins. They'd point out how superior CR ranked the Pioneer, Sansui, Sony (non-ES line)... and then proceed to tell me how we're over charging for under powered (by watts) receivers and how integrated amplifiers are a scam... etc. I'd have to spend the next 20-minutes with a notepad explaining integrated circuits versus solid state electronics to them while smiling about how watts is not the true measurement and amps is more important. Then a demonstration with a Class A 2-watt amp against a 200 watt mass market Pioneer receiver would make their jaw drop. At that point I'd either made a friend and potential sale, or I'd have a gruff and embarrassed ex-customer still arguing with me.
I agree pretty much about CR but I think they do okay at rating things like appliances and such. I wouldn't trust them for more sophisticated things like audio equipment, automobiles, etc. I actually wrote them off 30 years ago for their constant praise of "reliable" Toyotas and denegration of cars like the Corvette, Mustang, etc. Now I might see what they say if it comes up in a Google search but take everything I read from all sources with grains of salt.

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Just took my Cooper A/T3s off road for the first time today. Mudddddy muddy muddy! These tires performed fantastically!! Lots of puddles of standing water, and some very slushy mud several inches deep. My Coopers on the AD1 Latitude in Sand/Mud mode trekked right through it all. Lots of dirt and gravel in the dry parts, and it may as well have been asphalt. I don't know how it measures against other tires, but I am very pleased with my decision to go with the Discoverers. BTW, I'm on Tapatalk, I had no idea there was a poll.

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Great feedback on the Coopers. Sounds like you had a great time. I've never used tapatalk so I didn't know you didn't see the poll. I'll just assume your vote is for the Coopers. Thanks.

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Hankooks. Friends and I have ended up with them on all of our truck-y vehicles. Great price (in our sizes anyway), beastly in the snow, wear pretty well too. My TH will get them when the OE tires wear out.
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Hankooks. Friends and I have ended up with them on all of our truck-y vehicles. Great price (in our sizes anyway), beastly in the snow, wear pretty well too. My TH will get them when the OE tires wear out.
Thanks. Most of the negative Hankook reviews that I've read complain of excessive noise as they wear. Have you or your friends put 25k miles or more on them and experienced this? It's so hard to judge by online reviews since one persons idea of obnoxiously loud is another's idea of quiet.

Interestingly the Yokohamas and Falkens are winning the poll. Good thing I don't need tires because I'm no closer to picking a winner than when I started looking. At least I am learning a lot about A/T tires.

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