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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-28-2017, 09:54 PM
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I'd be curious to see if your 7-pin flat is wired like our 7-pin round. If all Cherokees destined to Australia have the Trailer Tow Group, and the vehicle wiring is the same, the wire for the brake controller should be there. It will be taped off in an approximate 2-3" loop.

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The brake controller wiring is not installed in our Aussie version. We have a trailer light controller in the right rear quarter panel and the brake connector wire stops at there. I had to run power for the brake controller from the battery and ran two wires to the rear quarter, one to connect the brake wire and one to hook onto the brake lights for a trigger. I used the brake light trigger as this operates the brakes when either you or the computer applies the brakes.

The other trap is by default the power in the rear quarter power socket is run with ignition and the trailer light controller is powered from this. So have a look in the manual to swap the rear power socket to permanent power (something like position 89 to 92), other wise trailer lights only work with ignition (ie, parked on side of road in the dark with parkers or hazards there are no lights on the van...)

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The brake controller wiring is not installed in our Aussie version. We have a trailer light controller in the right rear quarter panel and the brake connector wire stops at there. I had to run power for the brake controller from the battery and ran two wires to the rear quarter, one to connect the brake wire and one to hook onto the brake lights for a trigger. I used the brake light trigger as this operates the brakes when either you or the computer applies the brakes.

The other trap is by default the power in the rear quarter power socket is run with ignition and the trailer light controller is powered from this. So have a look in the manual to swap the rear power socket to permanent power (something like position 89 to 92), other wise trailer lights only work with ignition (ie, parked on side of road in the dark with parkers or hazards there are no lights on the van...)

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That's good info again Dave, thanks for that, I like the easy solution to the back outlet to permanent power, something you wouldn't even think about until you needed it if you're broken down on the side of a busy road.

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And one that even Jeep Aus was not aware of. I picked it up on here from something Oliver in NZ said. Did some testing and sure enough same thing.

Went to local Dealer and told them my trailer lights didn't work without ignition and they said they would look into it. Came back to me and yep, that's how the others on the lot work so must be normal... I said no, it is not roadworthy, please speak to FCAA and they went away. Then I did my own investigations based on what Oliver had mentioned and fixed it. Heard back from Dealer and apparently FCAA were perplexed and needed more time. I then told them what the fix was... they were speechless! They took that back to FCAA and they said they were going to issue a recall for all vehicles that had a tow bar connected and would be adding it to the I installation manual. Never heard of the recall..

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And one that even Jeep Aus was not aware of. I picked it up on here from something Oliver in NZ said. Did some testing and sure enough same thing.

Went to local Dealer and told them my trailer lights didn't work without ignition and they said they would look into it. Came back to me and yep, that's how the others on the lot work so must be normal... I said no, it is not roadworthy, please speak to FCAA and they went away. Then I did my own investigations based on what Oliver had mentioned and fixed it. Heard back from Dealer and apparently FCAA were perplexed and needed more time. I then told them what the fix was... they were speechless! They took that back to FCAA and they said they were going to issue a recall for all vehicles that had a tow bar connected and would be adding it to the I installation manual. Never heard of the recall..

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Which is why, when I have a issue or question about my car, I come here first and not to the dealer. Once again, thanks for your help and reassurance on this one.
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Agreed, if FCA and FCAA could harness the knowledge of the combined members of this site alone they would actually know all about their own vehicle!

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I had a Red-Arc ( https://www.redarc.com.au/ ) remote control brake controller fitted to our limited by the dealer. I felt that the Red-Arc was the best option in view that it is almost invisible as opposed to the more 'clunky' under dash controllers that I used to knock my knees on when getting in and out of the car.
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i hope they put back the trim piece that is missing in the first photo

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I had a Red-Arc ( https://www.redarc.com.au/ ) remote control brake controller fitted to our limited by the dealer. I felt that the Red-Arc was the best option in view that it is almost invisible as opposed to the more 'clunky' under dash controllers that I used to knock my knees on when getting in and out of the car.
I'll keep that one in mind, right price from what I can see. the Cherokee doesn't give too many options on where these things can be placed, I was thinking perhaps in centre console. What are you towing and what's the weight just out of interest?

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i hope they put back the trim piece that is missing in the first photo
Fortunately the dealer came good with a replacement. I took the photo the day after delivery.
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