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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-28-2017, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
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Please excuse the longevity of this post. Made a judgment error yesterday and attended the Sydney Caravan and Camping Show. We went purely out of curiosity. We found a caravan that suited our requirements (which we didn't know before we got there) perfectly, they had a great deal going with plenty of options thrown in and, I think you know where I'm going here....
So the new 14' 4x4 van is due for delivery in July. The ATM is 2050kgs with a TARE 1650kg which is under the TH's GTW 2,200kgs, so no problem there I hope. Have a few questions though after going through some of the archived forums here about towing. First up, I'm a bit concerned that the TH might be a bit under gunned to tow this heavy, for starters the TARE on the TH is 1936kg. I would prefer the tow vehicle weigh more than the thing its trying to stop.
Has anyone got experience towing this heavy over long distances and did the TH handle it satisfactorily?
The tow kit was fitted by the dealer before delivery, and not at the factory, is there a difference, one of the forum posts suggested there was and the ATM was lower for the post build tow kit.
Do I need to get an electric brake controller fitted, or is that part of the tow kit?
I've many more questions, but I'll get these 2 out of the way first. Also, I've posted this on the Australian forum as it appears that the export vehicles are quite different from the US vehicles as far as specifications go.

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to clarify your post, you are saying that the tow package was installed after the fact, thus it is not a factory equipped tow package.

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to clarify your post, you are saying that the tow package was installed after the fact, thus it is not a factory equipped tow package.
Vehicle arrived in Australia without a tow kit, it was installed at the dealership before I took delivery.

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in the US, that would limit your towing capabilities to 2,000 lbs.

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No in Australia you are good. All Aussie spec vehicles have the Factory tow pack just not an Aussie spec tow bar fitted and all are rated to the full 2200kg.

Ball weight max is 220kg, though would strongly recommend a Weight Distribution Hitch, I have the Hayman Reece V5 one rated at up to 250kg ball weight. My Jayco Dove Outback is only 1200kg fully loaded but has a ball rate of 150 to 180kg depending on loading and water tank level. It tows fine without the load leveller but tows much nicer with it.

Brake controller. Absolute must if trailer is over 750kg. If max weight over 2 tonne then you will also need the break away controller as well. It has a 12 battery in the van to operate the brakes if the van should disconnect from the vehicle.

Whilst I haven't towed anything that heavy mine tows beautifully and have seen many US posts of 16 to 18 foot vans and no probs

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FYI. The limit to the frontal area is 39.44 sq ft (3.66 sq m). Do you know the width and height of the trailer (caravan)? This is the listing from the owner's manual for the V6 and Trailer Tow Package. The tongue weight must be included, or added to the weight of passengers and cargo. It says to refer to local laws concerning maximum towing speeds! I think that a weight distribution hitch is a good idea. Does the trailer have surge or electric brakes?

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No in Australia you are good. All Aussie spec vehicles have the Factory tow pack just not an Aussie spec tow bar fitted and all are rated to the full 2200kg.

Ball weight max is 220kg, though would strongly recommend a Weight Distribution Hitch, I have the Hayman Reece V5 one rated at up to 250kg ball weight. My Jayco Dove Outback is only 1200kg fully loaded but has a ball rate of 150 to 180kg depending on loading and water tank level. It tows fine without the load leveller but tows much nicer with it.

Brake controller. Absolute must if trailer is over 750kg. If max weight over 2 tonne then you will also need the break away controller as well. It has a 12 battery in the van to operate the brakes if the van should disconnect from the vehicle.

Whilst I haven't towed anything that heavy mine tows beautifully and have seen many US posts of 16 to 18 foot vans and no probs

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Thanks Dave,
That's what I was hoping for, I think the factory spec tow kit includes a secondary transmission cooler, and the transmission being what it is, I was hoping that Aust. spec TH's came with that as standard. The ball weight is 220kgs, and I will take your advice regarding the WDH and get one. I also noted on the options list of the van that there is Electronic Stability Control which I think I will add.
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FYI. The limit to the frontal area is 39.44 sq ft (3.66 sq m). Do you know the width and height of the trailer (caravan)? This is the listing from the owner's manual for the V6 and Trailer Tow Package. The tongue weight must be included, or added to the weight of passengers and cargo. It says to refer to local laws concerning maximum towing speeds! I think that a weight distribution hitch is a good idea. Does the trailer have surge or electric brakes?
Electric, also has a breakaway emergency brake. You've got me wondering about the frontal area, its a big slab of a thing and wind resistance would be a factor, I'm going to get that sorted straight up, thanks for bringing that to my attention.

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Also, with the Trailer Tow Group, anti sway is built into the vehicle's electronics. I believe that one of the pins in the round 7-pin connector is for an electronic brake controller. In my Dodge Nitro, there was a red wire under the carpet by the steering column that was for the brake controller. I have never looked in my TH, but the wire may be there, but on your passenger side because you guys drive on the wrong side of the road! But, it may be by your steering column. It will be a single wire, taped off in a loop.

You are correct with the aux transmission cooler but there is an engine oil cooler also. It is located between the oil filter and the block.

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Also, with the Trailer Tow Group, anti sway is built into the vehicle's electronics. I believe that one of the pins in the round 7-pin connector is for an electronic brake controller. In my Dodge Nitro, there was a red wire under the carpet by the steering column that was for the brake controller. I have never looked in my TH, but the wire may be there, but on your passenger side because you guys drive on the wrong side of the road! But, it may be by your steering column. It will be a single wire, taped off in a loop.

You are correct with the aux transmission cooler but there is an engine oil cooler also. It is located between the oil filter and the block.
Thanks for that, car is due for a big clean today, so I'll look for any lonely wires hanging about and try and identify the oil cooler. This van requires a 12 pin flat plug. I'm starting to think that by the time I get a 12 pin fitted to the car (currently a 7 flat), 2 Anderson plugs, one to charge the van's batteries, the other for ESC, the vans reverse camera cable and a new hitch, it might have been more economical to just have bought a motorhome.
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