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Good morning Jeep community! As we all know, we have begun doing lifts to our jeeps with great success. Whether it is the @HazzardSky Budget Boost, or the MFC Off-Road version, we are all happy customers in the end.

One item essential to the safety and reliability of the suspension and driving components are our sway bar end links. From factory, they are to be level with the ground. Factory tolerances allow a 3 degrees of variation due to settling.

When you throw in the lift, it throws this tolerance out the window tremendously, resulting in a unadjustable positioning of the sway bar. This can be extremely dangerous when off-roading. What can happen is when flexing in the air the weight of the untouched tire can now pull down on the link and cause either a twist between the tire in the air and the opposite tire, or if both tires lift off the ground, the weight can cause the links to swing to a point where when the Jeep touches down, the force can either bend the links, bend the outer portion of the sway bar, or even worse, flip the sway bar to the opposite end of the spectrum that the end links can handle, and holding it there permanently under the vehicle load, while you have to limp back to fix it. All of these scenarios have been proven with just a 2" budget boost done to Wranglers that did not upgrade their endlinks. I have attached some pictures for reference.

So the solution would be to engineer an adjustable end link due to the varying lift heights available between the two lifts kits out there, coupled with the ability to disconnect at the strut for the fronts and the lower control arm for the rear, and provide a clip that will hold the end links to the sway bar/lower control arm.

MFC Offroad has developed such a product! These are made of stainless steel for rigidity, are stronger than the factory links due to the fact of the meat of the metal. Ours uses a 3/8" shank wheres the factory is 50% thinner. Also, these are not your typical pin and retaining clip dis-connectable sway bar end links. These are engineered to require no tools for disconnecting THE BEST WAY WHEN OUT ON A TRAIL!

Currently, Wrangler disconnects range in price from $100 - $150 per pair. My solution to our platform specific product falls right in the ball park per pair as well. Pricing can get lower when I make large runs.

This thread is an informative thread only and not a purchase thread. The purchase thread will be created in the parts for sale sections and will also provide detailed instructions for install. Install is literally 5-10 minutes per side.

*** FYI *** Recently, a Jeep Renegade performed a flex on an RTI ramp with and without end links connected. Since they utilize IFS like ours, they gained an extra 18" of crawl when the end links were removed before the rear tire started to lift.

Please review the following photos and don't let this happen to your recently lifted vehicle!
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Are these for the fronts?

Doh, I re-read.

I'm in for sure. I've been thinking about how to do this this myself!

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When you throw in the lift, it throws this tolerance out the window tremendously, resulting in a unadjustable positioning of the sway bar. This can be extremely dangerous when off-roading.

Soooo, you are saying that the lifts are not as 'harmless' to warranty and components as originally promised? I guess I'm missing if this is required with the lifts to prevent damage to other components, or if it's just a nice to do for increased travel?

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Interesting, and here I had been wondering if disconnects would ever come to our rides. The bill is growing...

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Soooo, you are saying that the lifts are not as 'harmless' to warranty and components as originally promised? I guess I'm missing if this is required with the lifts to prevent damage to other components, or if it's just a nice to do for increased travel?

I want it for the increased travel, that's going to be a huge benefit. I don't know about the other problems but the easy disconnect and increased travel are worth the price of admission alone.
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I snapped the swaybar links off my Compass when I lifted it. The lift kit did have swaybar relocation brackets but I had installed them wrong. In the end I just ran my front sway bar totally disconnected, but at the expense of killing my CV Axles. What kind of angles are the CV's at under full flex with the sway bar disconnected? Are they still within factory tolerances?


I'm just super skeptical since I did a ton of work to my Compass (With IFS) and destroyed the suspension. I understand and have compared and see the axles are more robust on a Cherokee but like I said still skeptical.
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I want it for the increased travel, that's going to be a huge benefit. I don't know about the other problems but the easy disconnect and increased travel are worth the price of admission alone.
No one disagrees with that but what he's asking/commenting on is if this is necessary to make either lift safe or are the adjustable links optional only to gain extra travel.

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Soooo, you are saying that the lifts are not as 'harmless' to warranty and components as originally promised? I guess I'm missing if this is required with the lifts to prevent damage to other components, or if it's just a nice to do for increased travel?
@Warloq. The lifts are still harmless to factory components as originally promised. What is being addressed here are the potentials that "COULD" happen if all the right circumstances line up resulting in the damage.

This is all relative to off-roading where flexing is prevalent. If for a lack of better terms, all you did was lift the Jeep for aesthetics, this is not an issue, #MallCrawler.

You can drive the Jeep with the sway bar end links in their current position and have no issues. But as you modify one component, you may want to adjust other components to keep reliability at its best when at all possible.

for example, same goes with all aspects of modification. You may want to run 40" tires on your 6 inch lifted JKU, but factory drive train will crumble under the load of having to turn those beasts, forcing you to upgrade to a Dana 60 front and rear axle.

The real benefit of these is to maintain factory geometry and give you the ability to disconnect on the trail with ease.
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@Warloq. The lifts are still harmless to factory components as originally promised. What is being addressed here are the potentials that "COULD" happen if all the right circumstances line up resulting in the damage.

This is all relative to off-roading where flexing is prevalent. If for a lack of better terms, all you did was lift the Jeep for aesthetics, this is not an issue, #MallCrawler.

You can drive the Jeep with the sway bar end links in their current position and have no issues. But as you modify one component, you may want to adjust other components to keep reliability at its best when at all possible.

for example, same goes with all aspects of modification. You may want to run 40" tires on your 6 inch lifted JKU, but factory drive train will crumble under the load of having to turn those beasts, forcing you to upgrade to a Dana 60 front and rear axle.

The real benefit of these is to maintain factory geometry and give you the ability to disconnect on the trail with ease.
So what does disconnecting do for CV joint life? I'd imagine disconnecting the sway bars would take the joint past the recommended drive angle range?

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This is for the rear, any chance for the front, I would think the front would gain from more flex since there is no locker up front.

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