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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 02-04-2015, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Just to get things straight, I hate the thought of self driving cars. But I love gadgets and tinkering. It's pretty obvious when using lane sense, it has no idea if your hands are actually on the wheel or not, it just seems to allow 2 corrections without torque being applied to the wheel, after the 3rd correction it beeps at you.
Anybody have any ideas how to fool the system? I thought about tying a light weight to the right side of the wheel to keep it pulled to the right and then it would correct to the left. Disabling the timer would be the best method because then we could have unlimited corrections and hands free driving.
And please, don't get all mad at me saying how dangerous this is! I'm well aware of the danger, and I won't put you in any.
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Just to get things straight, I hate the thought of self driving cars. But I love gadgets and tinkering. It's pretty obvious when using lane sense, it has no idea if your hands are actually on the wheel or not, it just seems to allow 2 corrections without torque being applied to the wheel, after the 3rd correction it beeps at you.
Anybody have any ideas how to fool the system? I thought about tying a light weight to the right side of the wheel to keep it pulled to the right and then it would correct to the left. Disabling the timer would be the best method because then we could have unlimited corrections and hands free driving.
And please, don't get all mad at me saying how dangerous this is! I'm well aware of the danger, and I won't put you in any.
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There's a steering wheel torque sensor that tells the system whether or not your hands are on the steering wheel. It will only do 2 full corrections before nagging you, but if your hands are on the wheel it will continue to give corrections. It could technically be adjusted such that is applies no correction if no torque is detected, Chrysler chose 2 as that should be sufficient for the most inattentive/distracted driver.

You just need to create torque on the wheel to keep it happy. Your weight idea might work, but you're likely to create oscillations that will result in loss of vehicle control, since the system isn't centering the car in the lane, just providing last minute corrections to prevent lane departure. It's counting on the human to keep the car centered once it applies a correction.

Future systems will do full lane centering. Honda's Mobileye system (same company that makes the vision processor for the TRW Chrysler systems) will do lane centering and basically drive itself. Lane centering is a big part of the upcoming "queue assist" or "traffic jam assist" function where the car will basically be fully autonomous under a certain speed in heavy traffic.
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What will lane centering do when the lane markings stop or become too faded? The inattentive driver will have to be informed.
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What will lane centering do when the lane markings stop or become too faded? The inattentive driver will have to be informed.
A mild electric shock through the wheel - just kidding!
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It's the Ron Burgundy syndrome. The news crew of Anchorman 2 obviously didn't have the lane centering option on the Winnebago as it tumbled and crashed with Ron's collection of tarantulas and bowling balls in the mix.
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