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post #51 of 58 (permalink) Old 05-16-2017, 10:15 PM
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Flashing oncoming drivers to make them feel stupid could result in a head on collision on a single lane highway, especially if the driver is an elder. I hope Jayhawks22 was kidding.

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Flashing oncoming drivers to make them feel stupid could result in a head on collision on a single lane highway, especially if the driver is an elder. I hope Jayhawks22 was kidding.
Whether Jayhawks22 was kidding or not, if he/she were ever involved in an accident requiring the involvement of investigators or lawyers, you can almost guarantee posts such as this will be found and used against him/her. The opinions/attitude/actions expressed have no positive interpretation what so ever, just a whole bunch of liability. Insurance companies have been known to even cancel policies and deny coverage based on information culled from social media.

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Whether Jayhawks22 was kidding or not, if he/she were ever involved in an accident requiring the involvement of investigators or lawyers, you can almost guarantee posts such as this will be found and used against him/her. The opinions/attitude/actions expressed have no positive interpretation what so ever, just a whole bunch of liability. Insurance companies have been known to even cancel policies and deny coverage based on information culled from social media.
This goes to another recent thread at this site.... it might be wise for Jayhawks22 to blank out the license plate if posting a picture of his/her ride in the future.
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What ? You have *not really legal* headlights on your Jeep, they are aimed high (obviously) so you are in fact throwing very intense light in their eyes if you have the slightest load increase, and you want to make oncomers feel stupid ? Really ?

I have these HID lights too, though not the LED fogs. Because, you know, fog lights are for fog, not for blinding people or lighting tree tops.
I adjusted my headlight projectors 2 full turns down after I installed the HID kit, because factory aim on my Jeep (and a lot of Cherokees it seems) is too high from factory. Not a big problem with halogen bulbs, but with xenons...

Intensely bright bulbs like xenons and LEDs must be installed and adjusted with care. Care for other motorists. Yeah, those *stupid people* you share the road with who are getting a facefull of the hotspot of your HIDs + your bleeding LED fog lights.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
When the Jeep is on level ground the light cut off isnt blinding nor affecting people, its only when im slanted up where it shines in peoples cars, just like any other car that has lights. When i say stupid people those people are the ones who see me coming from a top of a hill and think I have my brights on but Im just on higher ground so it looks like they are from that point. So when I flash them Im reassuring them I don't have them on, and I don't flash them if there's any drivers ahead in my line or behind the other driver. So yes those *stupid people* dont have a reason to flash me since it seems they don't know that light will look brighter if your below the person. Also yes I do want to make that driver who puts their brights on feel stupid for blinding me for no reason other than stupidity.
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Flashing oncoming drivers to make them feel stupid could result in a head on collision on a single lane highway, especially if the driver is an elder. I hope Jayhawks22 was kidding.
They are the ones who are blinding me so by flashing them im reassuring that I dont have them on and so that they will turn off their brights.
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When the Jeep is on level ground the light cut off isnt blinding nor affecting people, its only when im slanted up where it shines in peoples cars, just like any other car that has lights. When i say stupid people those people are the ones who see me coming from a top of a hill and think I have my brights on but Im just on higher ground so it looks like they are from that point. So when I flash them Im reassuring them I don't have them on, and I don't flash them if there's any drivers ahead in my line or behind the other driver. So yes those *stupid people* dont have a reason to flash me since it seems they don't know that light will look brighter if your below the person. Also yes I do want to make that driver who puts their brights on feel stupid for blinding me for no reason other than stupidity.
I hear what you are saying, but I have a feeling you don't quite get how bright xenon bulbs really are, and how important your headlight aim really is. Saying that when your Jeep is on level ground the cutoff is Ok, that doesn't mean your cutoff is where it should be, far from it... There are many factors that determine whether your HIDs are properly aimed, and *OK* cutoff on level ground with only you as cargo in the Jeep, with an empty tank of gas (example), is far from a reference to having good aim on the headlights...

Xenon bulbs are extremely bright. So bright that the law says any vehicule that ships with HIDs must have a levelling system, to automatically adjust headlight aim when the vehicule is tilted. The levelling really helps when you increase cargo load or drive up a hill. When you install an HID kit in a vehicule that obviously didn't ship with HIDs, you have no auto levelling, so the slightest increase in load/cargo or incline turns your xenon bulbs into weapons. Like I said before, xenon bulbs emit an awful lot of light... and you must do everythign to keep it out of oncoming eyes. This includes flashing. To signal oncomers you do not have high beams On, consider turning the headlights Off and On again, instead of flashing brights... The message will be clear and you won't create a hazardous situation.

With xenon bulbs in a non OEM HID vehicule, you have to aim your headlamps lower than they were with halogens, because you just can't shine those lights in other peoples' eyes...

In other words, you have to reset your headlight knowledge and adapt. And think about what you're doing...

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In other words, you have to reset your headlight knowledge and adapt. And think about what you're doing...
From your lips to God's ears @Mark_, Amen.

There's nothing more annoying than someone who upgraded their headlights only thinking of themselves and thumbing their nose at the rest of the traffic.
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Adjusted mine to the stock height and have yet to have anyone flash me or complain otherwise about the intensity of the lights. Just nice to see on these back country roads. LOL.
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