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Did not affect anything. Sometime when I'm bored and we have warmer weather I'll pull the rear RH panel and see what's back there.
Are you considering adding an amp?

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Are you considering adding an amp?
Subwoofer/factory amp. I know where I can get a factory enclosure from a salvage yard.
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Subwoofer/factory amp. I know where I can get a factory enclosure from a salvage yard.
Are you wondering if the wire extends from that F98 fuse position to where the factory amp mount is behind the glove box?

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Are you wondering if the wire extends from that F98 fuse position to where the factory amp mount is behind the glove box?
Yup.

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Yup.
According to a wire diagram, there are only two connectors involved in the harness between the F98 fuse in the PDC and the factory amp. The closet connector to the amp and radio contains the red power wires for both the radio and the amp. The radio is pin 5 and the amp is pin 4 in that connector. Don't know where the connector is, but following the harness from the radio connector back, it should be the first connector you encounter in that harness. If there is a red wire in pin position 4, that probably goes to the F98 fuse. Also, the amp is the only component on that F98 fuse circuit. Good luck!

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Unless things have changed with the CanBus since my 2011 Nitro, you will not be able to get a factory Amp to work if your vehicle did not come with it.

1. All of the radios are the same: either with an external Amp or not. There is a small Amp built into the radios. The MyGigs had a 66W Amp, 17.5W/Channel. This powers the 6 speakers in the non-amp system. I do not know the output of these new radios.

2. When the Factory Amp is added, the Amp sends a signal to the radio that it is there. The radio powers up the Amp and then the Amp sends a signal back to the radio to cut the power: the radio becomes a pre-amp: the speaker power is reduced going to the amp. Full power goes to the speakers, from the radio, if there is not an Amp present.

3. The Forum Moderator on the Nitro Forum acquired everything needed to add the Factory Amp, and the second set of tweeters in the rear doors, and the sub in the rear 1/4 panel. He had the wire schematics, and made sure every connector had the correct wires going to the correct pin. Everything was wired correctly. For some reason, the radio would "recognize" the Amp, but the Amp would not "recognize" the radio. The radio would tell the Amp to turn on, but the Amp refused to power up!

He took it to two Dealers trying to figure out why it would not work. It had something to do with what circuits are shared on the CanBus.

4. If you get this to work, more power to you. Amen, brother. If not, see if you can have the 9-speaker system added to your build sheet.
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Thanks for taking the time to post this info, @dhh3, interesting.

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Thanks for taking the time to post this info, @dhh3, interesting.
I'll try and find his thread on the Nitro forumz, and post the link. It is an interesting saga.

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Here it is:

https://www.nitroforumz.com/threads/...install.38992/

It is a good read because you will out how every circuit uses the CanBus. I traded my Nitro for my 2014 Journey Crossroad. I only went back to the Nitro Forumz a few times after that, so I'm still fairly sure that it can not be done.

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