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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-15-2017, 09:41 PM Thread Starter
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Now this is the update they need

Forget about the botched OTA update, they need to roll this out and back port it to the current (ie 2014+) 8.4" UConnect hardware. Not sure if it's really feasible or not, it seems the hardware changes even during the same "model".

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Why would I want Android anywhere near my car?
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Aren't you a bit too young for that i phone?
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Why would I want Android anywhere near my car?
Why not? It's a fork of Linux, the OS is well maintained, stable, and well secured. Don't blame the third party distributors for not keeping their phones updated. There are a tonne more developers familiar with the OS than QNX, and the source code is free. I'm guessing QNX has a buttload of fees for licensing, and Google is pushing to get into the market. This likely means they are lending engineers to the project, and other resources.

Add a decent backend to FCA's well regarded UI and it's a winner.

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Why not? It's a fork of Linux, the OS is well maintained, stable, and well secured.
Well maintained by google, third party implementers not so much.

Stable? Maybe, but the more complex of an OS and the more you open it to third party developers, the more spaghetti code gets introduced and bam you've got a crash(and maybe an auto collision!)

Well secured? Nope.

891 reported vulnerabilities for android.
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerabi...e-Android.html

34 vulnerabilities for QNX.
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerabi...d-436/QNX.html

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No, that's exactly who needs to be blamed. Why do you think Chrysler would be any different? They barely update the current software as it is.

I'd rather keep things simple and utilitarian. People have mobile devices for entertainment that do it better than anything Chrysler can put together.



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Well maintained by google, third party implementers not so much.

Stable? Maybe, but the more complex of an OS and the more you open it to third party developers, the more spaghetti code gets introduced and bam you've got a crash(and maybe an auto collision!)

Well secured? Nope.

891 reported vulnerabilities for android.
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerabi...e-Android.html

34 vulnerabilities for QNX.
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerabi...d-436/QNX.html





No, that's exactly who needs to be blamed. Why do you think Chrysler would be any different? They barely update the current software as it is.

I'd rather keep things simple and utilitarian. People have mobile devices for entertainment that do it better than anything Chrysler can put together.



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Whoops, I mistyped. That should have been don't blame them (Google) for third parties not keeping the OS updated.

With the changes in how core services are handled under Android, the patches would actually make it to vehicles. I also suspect part of the reason the systems don't get updated frequently is QNX is hard, comparatively speaking, and the hardware isn't commodity hardware. It's OMAP CPUs released approaching a decade ago, the hardware is, at best, antiquated.

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I agree that it needs to be updated however I don't think android in its current form could do it. It would require heavy adaptation. I'm not sure we can trust an automaker to do it right.


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The excuse usually made is "lead time for developing a car is years". Which is why I say commodity x64 hardware is the solution. Even the lower end Atom CPUs have more power than most of the OMAP based infotainment systems.

The busses are standardized, USB and PCIe aren't going anywhere soon, and SATA will remain for some time. Even if the underlying hardware changed (larger drives, faster CPU or new GPU) during development of a car, if they designed the UI and OS separate from the hardware it wouldn't mean a thing, except maybe the UI would be snappier.

Designing for a constrained hardware that's already obsolete at the time of the design choices is just a failure mode.
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