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Why I love wheelbase and a manual transmission....
Manual? And don't forget the really low CG of the KL unibody lol
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Manual? And don't forget the really low CG of the KL unibody lol
Our other trail rigs are manual transmissions. If that was an option on the KL that is what we would've gotten. If the driver had a manual transmission and had pushed the clutch (and not the brake) the rear would've likely rolled back out and brought the nose down.

I'm with you on the LCG though.. even our JKU that is rolling 37s only has 3.5" of lift.

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Our other trail rigs are manual transmissions. If that was an option on the KL that is what we would've gotten. If the driver had a manual transmission and had pushed the clutch (and not the brake) the rear would've likely rolled back out and brought the nose down.

I'm with you on the LCG though.. even our JKU that is rolling 37s only has 3.5" of lift.
I think it was a manual in the video, it seems like he stalls it and freezes instead of getting the clutch in. But I could be wrong lol
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I think it was a manual in the video, it seems like he stalls it and freezes instead of getting the clutch in. But I could be wrong lol
To be fair, it's always easier to judge what should've been done in a video versus when in the real moment. Freezing up is pretty common. It takes dealing with these moments to truly prepare for them.

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To be fair, it's always easier to judge what should've been done in a video versus when in the real moment. Freezing up is pretty common. It takes dealing with these moments to truly prepare for them.
Absolutely! The time I did that hill in a rino the same thing happened, I put on the brake then quickly realized that was the wrong thing to do! No replacement for seat time.
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Absolutely! The time I did that hill in a rino the same thing happened, I put on the brake then quickly realized that was the wrong thing to do! No replacement for seat time.
When I'm spotting people I will often go through a "preflight" chat whenever I think a roll or flop is possible. "If I yell go, you hit the gas and turn "x" direction" "If I yell clutch, smash it in and don't hit the brake until I say brake". Our 2-door JK was nose happy. Both the wife and I nearly put it end over end. A turn and gas settled it down in my case, but the wife needed to nail the clutch to bring it down. These were both fairly exciting moments LOL.
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When I'm spotting people I will often go through a "preflight" chat whenever I think a roll or flop is possible. "If I yell go, you hit the gas and turn "x" direction" "If I yell clutch, smash it in and don't hit the brake until I say brake". Our 2-door JK was nose happy. Both the wife and I nearly put it end over end. A turn and gas settled it down in my case, but the wife needed to nail the clutch to bring it down. These were both fairly exciting moments LOL.
Hells gate on our EJS trip, he's been up this a bunch of times before.
https://youtu.be/Wbexb8mVXEk
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Hells gate on our EJS trip, he's been up this a bunch of times before.
https://youtu.be/Wbexb8mVXEk
That was a very nice recovery... not a place to clutch and roll even with a manual.

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Hells gate on our EJS trip, he's been up this a bunch of times before.
Where's the video of you doing the Gate? LOL
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Where's the video of you doing the Gate? LOL
I have no interest in doing it, not a very tough obstacle but big consequences if something goes wrong.
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