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Wonder how the transmission engineers are feeling about now?
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6200km's and I have no problems with my transmission. The Uconnect works great and its easy to use.
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do you guys think if i buy a 2016 Cherokee TH. It shouldnt have these problems ?
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do you guys think if i buy a 2016 Cherokee TH. It shouldnt have these problems ?
Don't see why it would.....my 2015 doesn't have any tranny issues. Uconnect hacking only affects Specs that have wifi, in Canada it's not enabled so we're not vulnerable to the recent hack. (Future ones?, who knows?)

Plus, it's my understanding if you don't get the technology group with all the fancy auto steering, braking and cruise, there is nothing for a hacker to take control of. Personally I would never buy a vehicle that thinks it's smarter than me.....auto braking, auto steering, auto parking, auto cruise.....no thanks, I like driving....all these things do is disassociate one from the experience, if you want to be a passenger...don't sit behind the wheel.

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No tranny issues with my 2015. Over 17,000 miles and the tranny is silk.

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Don't see why it would.....my 2015 doesn't have any tranny issues. Uconnect hacking only affects Specs that have wifi, in Canada it's not enabled so we're not vulnerable to the recent hack. (Future ones?, who knows?)

Plus, it's my understanding if you don't get the technology group with all the fancy auto steering, braking and cruise, there is nothing for a hacker to take control of. Personally I would never buy a vehicle that thinks it's smarter than me.....auto braking, auto steering, auto parking, auto cruise.....no thanks, I like driving....all these things do is disassociate one from the experience, if you want to be a passenger...don't sit behind the wheel.
That was my general opinion, and why I opted out of the "SafetyTech" package on the Latitude. I referred to them as driver nannies to the sales agent when they suggested it. I don't like the idea of something that can override driver input...I can imagine a few situations where the safety system kicks in when you really don't want it to, or worse, that the user starts to rely the system over their own instincts and experience, which could be very bad if the system suddenly fails and you don't realize it. I know there is some sort of visual indicator, but I don't think it's especially prominent...
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Personally I would never buy a vehicle that thinks it's smarter than me.....auto braking, auto steering, auto parking, auto cruise.....no thanks, I like driving....all these things do is disassociate one from the experience, if you want to be a passenger...don't sit behind the wheel.
Actually, I would not say it thinks it's smarter than you. But it's - without a shadow of a doubt - more attentive (100% attentive) and many times faster at reacting than you.

Even if you're a great driver, and can maintain constant focus on what you're doing, rather than playing with the radio, taking a phone call (via Bluetooth) or messing around with your seat or talking to passenger - even if you're doing none of these things, ever... you still need to blink.

These aids don't override you as much as you may think - they are great aids for the longer, more boring, more repetitive journeys - the commute - where the risk of you being complacent or inattentive rises... but even on an non-commute journey, on unfamiliar roads where my attention level is high, I have had FCW engage and, yes, once or twice I'm glad it did (more times than not it plays it really safe and that can be frustrating - but I'd rather [it] do a bit of braking than suffer a collision.

I'm all for driver aids and car smarts. Anyone that enjoys driving can do it away from the others of us, people who are doing it because we need to be doing it. One day folk like you won't be allowed on the public roads, you'll have to do your driving away from us, probably on some kind of track in a fenced-off boundary.

P.S. "folk like you" is not meant to be as disparaging as it might sound.

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I don't like the idea of something that can override driver input...
Overriding by braking if it [the algorithm] 'fears' a collision and overriding by nudging the car back into lane. These don't seem like things you need to be wary of. You can always come up with outliers and strange situations - but the majority (the overwhelming) majority is what is being catered for.

Today it's a minority of self-drive type cars on the road, and we have one or two accidents (and an unfortunate death with Tesla)... but in the future it will be the cars being driven by people that will be in the minority, and it'll be all those having the accidents, just as they do today (but today it's normal)... all the other cars will be accident-free.

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Actually, I would not say it thinks it's smarter than you. But it's - without a shadow of a doubt - more attentive (100% attentive) and many times faster at reacting than you.

Even if you're a great driver, and can maintain constant focus on what you're doing, rather than playing with the radio, taking a phone call (via Bluetooth) or messing around with your seat or talking to passenger - even if you're doing none of these things, ever... you still need to blink.

These aids don't override you as much as you may think - they are great aids for the longer, more boring, more repetitive journeys - the commute - where the risk of you being complacent or inattentive rises... but even on an non-commute journey, on unfamiliar roads where my attention level is high, I have had FCW engage and, yes, once or twice I'm glad it did (more times than not it plays it really safe and that can be frustrating - but I'd rather [it] do a bit of braking than suffer a collision.

I'm all for driver aids and car smarts. Anyone that enjoys driving can do it away from the others of us, people who are doing it because we need to be doing it. One day folk like you won't be allowed on the public roads, you'll have to do your driving away from us, probably on some kind of track in a fenced-off boundary.

P.S. "folk like you" is not meant to be as disparaging as it might sound.
No offence taken.....I would argue that the use of said aids only serves to make a driver more inattentive and complacent, but that's my opinion. Driving skills are becoming a lost art from the caliber of drivers I see filling our roadways these days. After two military defensive driving courses and several years on the autobahn in my younger days.......I know what most drivers are going to do before they do.

I agree that one day (eventually) there will be ONLY auto drive mode on our inner cities and highways, however...until everyone is using it, it's going to be a mishmash nightmare
Case in point, recent Tesla motors issues with the self drive feature.


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post #30 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-22-2016, 11:08 AM
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A bit premature? Almost a year after the vehicle platform design was completed (March 2013) they awarded the team who designed the transmission implementation (feb 2014) which was over a year ago.

How long do you think they should have waited?

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They should have waited until the software was done. Even with up to date software, various vehicles, include Chrysler's, Jeeps, Land Rovers have had terrible reviews due to the "working as intended" transmission. As for the Cherokee, it was truly a failure that the government and FCA recognize. Hundreds of thousands of owners with transmission failures and replacements. FCA letters warning of the long term reliability caused by the software.

Simply doing the TSB update is not sufficient for most of these owners EAK, unless they purchased a relatively new Cherokee. You should read up on some of the issues with the 2014 model and you will understand better.
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