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post #21 of 56 (permalink) Old 04-24-2014, 01:07 PM
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Hi,
I´m from Germany. (Sorry about my bad english, my german is even better )
We love the diesel engines here in Germany.
The fuel consuption is much better than the gas engine, and by the way
the liter of diesel fuel is about 20(!) cents cheaper than gas.
I could NEVER imagine buying a SUV with a gas engine!
And that´s the Problem:
The Trailhawk is NOT available with a diesel engine in europe!!!
And I like the Trailhawk much more than the others...besides...no liftkits available to put bigger tyres on the car...

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Welcome to JCC Holger.

You do raise an interesting question. Jeep has been evasive on why no Diesel in TH - I am sure it's something as silly as a dimensional fit. It can't be power or torque as the TH in N. America runs with the gasoline (petrol) I4 which is much weaker torque-wise than the 170 HP Diesel. Hopefully they will solve that issue soon and (even more hopefully) start offering Diesel engines in the US and Canada as well.
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post #22 of 56 (permalink) Old 04-24-2014, 02:25 PM
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Welcome to JCC from another German member,

At the moment, a German Cherokee forum is on the way and will go online soon. If you are interested to join us, stay tuned. I will leave you a message here.

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post #23 of 56 (permalink) Old 05-14-2014, 03:40 AM
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Unhappy Still no 170 HP Diesel avaiable

Are there any informations, what´s going on with the 170 HP Diesel? Even Jeep Germany could not tell me, when the cars will be shipped to the dealers. That makes me a little bit nervous .....

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I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a Mercedes Diesel engine and just after I purchased this vehicle Diesel prices went up (above premium) paid as much as 5 dollars a gallon. Best MPG I ever got was about 24 MPG. Furthermore oil changes have to be much more frequent and at a much higher cost. There is absolutely no advantage to purchase a Diesel, except if one needs a lot of torque besides one has to pay a premium over a gasoline powered vehicle. Anyway easy to explain why there is so little demand for diesel powered cars.
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How much do the post-2006 diesel regulations affect the diesel market in the US? I was under the impression that some foreign car manufacturers (Toyota?) do not market diesels in the US because of this.

My husband routinely gets 45-48 mpg in his diesel Jetta in combined city/highway driving. But if you are just doing city driving in anything that is heavier than a small car, the gas mileage doesn't compete, the cost of the vehicle is higher, and the cost of the diesel is higher to boot.

I'm also under the impression that diesel engines typically have a longer life span that gasoline ones.
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As long as the Diesel cars and fuel are so much more expensive, and gas prices are lower than in places like Europe, it will be a tough sell in North America. At this stage, I would almost prefer a Hybrid Cherokee - Marchionne hinted at that possibility yesterday (for clarity - he was speaking in general - not specifically for the Cherokee).
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it would likely be a tough sell overall in North America, but there are plenty of diesel lovers around who would be willing to pay for the diesel. I think Jeep knows this and that's why they are testing the waters with the diesel Grand Cherokee. Ford, Dodge, Chevrolet, Volkswagen and BMW manage to make it work.
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The market for SUV's in Europe is quite different. About 80% were sold with Diesel engines. Jeep Germany expected the 170 HP Diesel as the cash cow. And now, it's still not running. The only question is: WHY?

The engine itself is working perfect for some years now in different models - for sure, that's not the problem. So it must be the transmission.

I have to order a new car at latest in July this year, to make sure it's here when the lease contract for my actual car runs out in December. So I have to make a plan B.....

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Does Europe have the same diesel emission controls that are required in the US?
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I don't know, what the actual standard for Diesel engines is in the US. In Europe, every new Diesel car has to be equipped with exhaust filter and EGR-System, which makes them more expensive.

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