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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-23-2014, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
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Devil's Advocate: Slushbox seems to make sense in a Jeep

By Nick Dasko

Jeeps are bad-ass, awesome vehicles that should have off-roading heritage oozing from their seams. I didn't really like the whole "Trail Rated" badge thing because I think all Jeeps should be more than at-home on a rocky, mule-trail.

That's why I think Jeep made the right call in giving the North American market a traditional torque-converter automatic as the only transmission in the Cherokee. (Yes I know you can get a stick shift and a diesel in Europe).

The new nine-speed automatic, is not perfect but I think it will age well. Now I know tons of Jeep people will whine and moan about how "real off-road" trucks should have a manual gearbox, but then I look at what the guys at King of the Hammers use.

You know that race, the one that combines desert bashing with rock-crawling over a mountain. Ya, those guys use torque-converter automatics. You get more control of torque, at lower ratios, and a tougher transmission with a torque converter. Plus it is easier to crawl along at low-speeds which is why all the insane, glacier-crushing off-roaders from Iceland have a traditional automatic in their drivetrains.

If you want to go slowly over an obstacle, or move at a low speed or just need to rock back and forth to get unstuck, a torque converter makes sense. I have never understood why people who buy Rubicons for serious off-roading, buy them with manuals.

If you want to have fun off-road(aka you want a Jeep) a traditional automatic just makes sense.
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That is one bad ass car!
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-16-2014, 12:46 PM
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I totally agree with you. My previous car was a Mitsubishi L-200 4x4 pickup with an automatic gearbox. I did a lot of rock-climbing in Israel with this thing for about 15 years. (130,000 miles and, apart from routine service, a single burnt light-bulb...)
The last thing you want is to lose traction while manually shifting gears while climbing.
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Unless I'm reading it right, he's saying the Auto is the way to go. And so are you.

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Very interesting read!!! But what is a " Content Creator "?? Are you like from outer space and playing with us earthling's????
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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-20-2014, 09:10 AM
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There are many reasons Jeep went with a single transmission for the Cherokee, but I can guarantee you the biggest one was that the target audience for the cross-over segment is far more likely to be concentrating not to hit a shopping mall curb than they are a compact car sized rock.

Most people don't actually want a trailhawk; but they do want a taste, and to make a business argument enough to go through the R&D to calibrate the car's systems, the EPA and NHTSA certifications for a manual (which is a poor business model in the US anyway) doesn't make sense. As someone that prefers manual transmissions I honestly wouldn't want one in the Cherokee.

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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-19-2014, 05:50 PM
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Having played in both areas, I can say low range shifting all day long, then the highway drive home. *I* *Like* having an automatic transmission, my left knee is no longer sore, and if I need to brace myself for when things get a little off plumb I can use my left leg. Something I could never do in the old manual transmission/solid shift linkage days.

Welcome to 2014 and we have automatic transmissions.

(I don't have a TH, but I have done day long trail crawls with a 72 jeep 304 engine with an Arnold Schwarzenegger approved clutch.)
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I want. Actually, I would rather have the one pictured in dark brown. Go offroading with that color and some people might not even notice unless you're on a red dirt road.
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Not gonna lie... I wish I had a 5 or 6 speed in this jeep. Fun factor would've gone up at least 2 points out of 10. I don't really take my jeep offroad, so shifting while climbing over rocks is not a big issue for me. I also had a '99 cherokee automatic, and again, I would've preferred manual.
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