I See This Both Ways...But Women Can't Have it Both Ways - 2014+ Jeep Cherokee Forums
User Tag List

 11Likes
  • 1 Post By Mark_
  • 2 Post By edge600
  • 2 Post By taatmk
  • 3 Post By mults
  • 1 Post By goobnav
  • 2 Post By goobnav
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-24-2017, 08:39 AM Thread Starter
Forum Elder
 
Mudman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: The Northwoods
Posts: 1,963
I See This Both Ways...But Women Can't Have it Both Ways

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/24...s-protest.html

I still practice chivalry. I open doors for women, pull out chairs, hold a purse, always help cook and clean (I like to cook). Having been married twice and now having a girlfriend who also has been married before, we treat each other with respect.

I grow angry over this because I have had more conversations than I can count on the subject. A lot of women I have met state they want to be treated as equal, as one of the guys. Okay, I am totally cool with that. If that is the case, then I should not be expected to hold doors open, hold a purse, do all the snow shoveling, change a flat tire, fix a plumbing leak. Women should do all that stuff too, with no issues or complaints. BUT, almost all the women I have talked to that say they want to be an equal, and not get special treatment in the "old way", say the above stuff still falls on a guy. As does domestic stuff.

I am the larger provider in my relationship now. I was in one of my previous marriages for the whole time, and was for half (she got promoted) of the second one. It was never an issue...until a lawyer got involved!

Anyway, I thought I would ask your opinion on this article. FYI...I have two friends who are couples. The guy stays home and takes care of the kids and house, the wife works. I am 100% okay with that too...it works for them, who am I to judge.

Bottom line, in my opinion, if everything in life...work life and home life.... is to be 100% equal, then once in a while a woman should open a door for me, or pull my chair out!

2015 Trailhawk - Eco Green, 3.2L, Nav, Tow, Cold Weather. MODS: Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain ProGrades 245/70R17; WeatherTech mats, vent shades; Magnaflow exhaust. Rigid SR 20" bar and Rock Lights. JW Speaker fog lights. Blue Ridge Overland Gear panels and bags. Pelican tool box loaded! Bubba Rope and Gators too. Much more....

Trailer: Custom built Montrose aluminum 4.5'Wx6'Lx3'H off-road utility with 3,500 lb Dexter torsion axle. Known as the Zombie Escape Trailer.
Mudman1 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-24-2017, 08:46 AM
Forum Elder
 
Mark_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 4,030
From that article :
Quote:
The message's origins are a mystery. The billboard belongs to Whiteheart Outdoor Advertising, and owner Bill Whiteheart said the organization that bought the space does not wish to be identified.
Yeah, of course. Sign of the times ? Feels like the humanity clock has been set back half a century. Unreal.
Mudman1 likes this.

My avatar is the Elder Predator (goes well with my forum status and overall temper )
2015 North (Canada) - V6 - AD1
Cold, Tow, 8.4A, 9 speakers with sub
Mark_ is offline  
post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-24-2017, 11:20 AM
Enthusiast Member
 
edge600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Utah
Posts: 253
The ACA stipulates that a women cannot be charged more then a man for healthcare coverage. I asked my Mom what she thought of that, she thought it sounded quite reasonable. I then asked her if she would help me lobby to get a similar law passed so that men could not be charged more for car insurance. She then said, point well made and taken. Lots of ideas sound good on the surface.
Mudman1 and Duke2015 like this.
edge600 is offline  
 
post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-24-2017, 11:29 AM Thread Starter
Forum Elder
 
Mudman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: The Northwoods
Posts: 1,963
Quote:
Originally Posted by edge600 View Post
The ACA stipulates that a women cannot be charged more then a man for healthcare coverage. I asked my Mom what she thought of that, she thought it sounded quite reasonable. I then asked her if she would help me lobby to get a similar law passed so that men could not be charged more for car insurance. She then said, point well made and taken. Lots of ideas sound good on the surface.
I have said something similar. I think if I have to pay for fee XYZ for women (omitting words to not offend anyone), I think that men should be offered free snip sessions. I had one, because I do not want kids. It was many years before ACA, so my insurance covered it. So men should be able to go get snipped for free! I was told that was not reasonable, but women services and abortion are reasonable. Go figure.

2015 Trailhawk - Eco Green, 3.2L, Nav, Tow, Cold Weather. MODS: Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain ProGrades 245/70R17; WeatherTech mats, vent shades; Magnaflow exhaust. Rigid SR 20" bar and Rock Lights. JW Speaker fog lights. Blue Ridge Overland Gear panels and bags. Pelican tool box loaded! Bubba Rope and Gators too. Much more....

Trailer: Custom built Montrose aluminum 4.5'Wx6'Lx3'H off-road utility with 3,500 lb Dexter torsion axle. Known as the Zombie Escape Trailer.
Mudman1 is offline  
post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-24-2017, 02:17 PM
Premium Member
 
taatmk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Utah
Posts: 5,475
Garage
Many states offer/require "paternity" leave as well as "maternity" leave as a work benefit...
Mudman1 and Mark_ like this.

2015 Cherokee Trailhawk:
Granite Crystal, 3.2L V6, 8.4 Nav, black leather, sunroof, tow, tech, comfort/conv, no hood decal, 9 speakers, CD player, Maximum Care lifetime warranty, Mopar first aid kit, rear rubber cargo mat, Thule Aeroblade cross bars (black), Thule Rapid Aero feet, Kuat Vagabond X cargo basket, RRO rock rails with smooth covers, Mopar door sills, Raingler ceiling net, Raingler seat headrest handles, MFC aluminum lift kit, RRO winch bar and Warn M8000S winch, BFG T/A KO2s
taatmk is offline  
post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-24-2017, 04:47 PM
Premium Member
 
mults's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 1,858
@Mudman1

I too practice chivalry, not only for my wife, but others as well. I hold the doors of buildings open for people, and MOST of the time I'll get a "thank you" or a smile. Then there are times where there in NO acknowledgement; almost like "what the heck are you doing, I can get the door for myself." When that happens, I usually say; "that's OK, I'll get the door" or "your welcome" just to see how they react...

Maybe it's because I am older (62) and was taught at an early age that this is what you are supposed to do. My wife and I have a pretty 50/50 relationship, but I have to admit she does more of the household chores, but I do all of the maintenance, yard work and tackle the snow. In our situation, I do help on occasion with the laundry and such, just because I know how hard she does work. She works in an Union factory and gets paid what the men do, so there are no complaints there.

I think there are too many people who just bitch about every little thing.
Mudman1, Mark_ and David_Baker like this.

mults


2014 Trail Hawk | 3.2 V6 | Tow Package | Cherry Red | Brown Leather | Hood Decal | Cold Weather | 8.4AN | 9 Speaker | CD Player | Black Wheels | Comfort Package
mults is online now  
post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-25-2017, 11:18 AM
Forum Elder
 
goobnav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 1,664
Garage
All I can say, being a NC resident and I know where that billboard is BTW, is that this is divide and conquer at it's best.

Keep an eye on things happening in background that nobody is reporting. Like maybe the upcoming interest rate increase.
Mudman1 likes this.

2016 TH, V6, C&C, Tow group, 8.4AN, leather, Cold Weather, Command Sunroof, Black wheels, & Black. Maxcare Unlimited Miles and Years $100 Deductible.
goobnav is offline  
post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-25-2017, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
Forum Elder
 
Mudman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: The Northwoods
Posts: 1,963
Quote:
Originally Posted by goobnav View Post
All I can say, being a NC resident and I know where that billboard is BTW, is that this is divide and conquer at it's best.

Keep an eye on things happening in background that nobody is reporting. Like maybe the upcoming interest rate increase.
Oh yea, that is bound to rise. It has to, and has needed to for years. It was a part reason for looking for a Wrangler in place of next year's model...but the Cherokee depreciates faster than an Audi.

2015 Trailhawk - Eco Green, 3.2L, Nav, Tow, Cold Weather. MODS: Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain ProGrades 245/70R17; WeatherTech mats, vent shades; Magnaflow exhaust. Rigid SR 20" bar and Rock Lights. JW Speaker fog lights. Blue Ridge Overland Gear panels and bags. Pelican tool box loaded! Bubba Rope and Gators too. Much more....

Trailer: Custom built Montrose aluminum 4.5'Wx6'Lx3'H off-road utility with 3,500 lb Dexter torsion axle. Known as the Zombie Escape Trailer.
Mudman1 is offline  
post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-26-2017, 08:53 AM
Forum Elder
 
goobnav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 1,664
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudman1 View Post
Oh yea, that is bound to rise. It has to, and has needed to for years. It was a part reason for looking for a Wrangler in place of next year's model...but the Cherokee depreciates faster than an Audi.
We just bought a townhouse last year with a sub 4% mortgage, timing could never have been better. Then at the end of the month we closed, got the Jeep, .
Mudman1 and 04Freedom like this.

2016 TH, V6, C&C, Tow group, 8.4AN, leather, Cold Weather, Command Sunroof, Black wheels, & Black. Maxcare Unlimited Miles and Years $100 Deductible.
goobnav is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the 2014+ Jeep Cherokee Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



  Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ways to remove light scratches in the black vinyl Arct1c4x4 Interior 4 09-26-2016 11:35 PM
Two Ways of Resetting MPG on EVIC - Anyone Notice This? Dodgeboy 2014+ Jeep Cherokee General Discussion 9 03-19-2015 09:08 AM
Six Ways The 2014 Jeep Cherokee Is Better Than The XJ Moab 2014+ Jeep Cherokee General Discussion 2 07-29-2013 11:18 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On